Journal pen or pencil

[Pignut]

I was...... however after the 5th page i started to feel a little light headed.............................

(Perhaps i should use someone elses blood)

 

[Retired Member southey]

I use Woodlore\greenman\bushcraftstore\stoneage\Bisonbushcraft\survivalschool\safetyandsurvival school# supplied blood, it means I write about better bushcraft than you!


#EDIT to add other school shops are out there!

 

[Shewie]

If you get something down in pencil that you're particularly proud of, borrow Mrs Pignut's can of hairspray and fix it permanently

 

[beachlover]

I can't find a link at the moment, but I seem to recall from a few years ago and a brief foray into sketching, that there is a spray that can proof and preserve pencil on paper for things you really want to keep. I'm sure someone will come up with it before I get a chance to find it, but if not I'll have a rummage later

Edited to say here you go....
http://www.artifolk.co.uk/catalog/p...r_and_newton_artists_transparent_fixative.htm

Not suggesting you spray the whole book, or every page, just the important ones.
It seems that a number of authorities say that pencil keeps as well, if not better than a lot of pens.


I gave away my Space Pens. Too tiny for my hands and eventually got fed up looking for them in crevices in bags, so when I found them I gave them away.
I now use a Koh I Noor propelling pencil that I love writing with.

 

[3bears]

Fisher space pen for me, does well enough for my 'bushie book' lol

 

[blacktimberwolf]

As a 'Bushcrafter' you should write with a quill and blood of course.

I thought true bushcrafters wrote in charcoal made from bits of burnt twig taken from the camp fire

 

[Graham_S]

I use a mechanical pencil.

 

[outdoorpaddy]

I thought true bushcrafters would just carve the letters into a bit of wood and take that with them, lol I would just use pencil tbh, if your pen explodes all over you it makes a mess and you feel like a numpty. I say stick to pencil, sharpen it with a folder or other blade.

outdoorpaddy

 

[beachlover]

I use a mechanical pencil.

Just edited my post to say that after getting rid of my Space (crevice finding and hiding) Pens, I have settled on a nice Koh I Noor Self Propelling pencil.

 

[rik_uk3]

Thinking about it forget blood, write up your trip on your Zoom or iPad both of which are logical developments of chalk and slate. I'm sure people here can back 'bushcraft' leather cases for either.

 

[Pignut]

If you get something down in pencil that you're particularly proud of, borrow Mrs Pignut's can of hairspray and fix it permanently

What! And risk more bloodshed!

 

[GordonM]

Thinking about it forget blood, write up your trip on your Zoom or iPad both of which are logical developments of chalk and slate. I'm sure people here can back 'bushcraft' leather cases for either.

Jeeze louise Rik, now you've opened the door for the whole "carbon footprint" thingy!

I use a pen for my journals but no one will use mine for anything but tinder in the future.

Gordy

 

[Shewie]

What! And risk more bloodshed!

Only a little bit, hairspray that is, not blood

 

[Highbinder]

I thought true bushcrafters wrote in charcoal made from bits of burnt twig taken from the camp fire

Works okay, actually. Spent one trip writing haikus with charcoal 'pencils' because I forgot my pen. Tried making soot ink, too, a bit trickier to be sure!

 

[MandaPanda]

Of course there is a "Quatro" version of the space pen if you are feeling extravagant... Black ink, red ink, propelling pencil and a stylus! (A friend bought me one for my birthday and I love it!)

 

[sandbender]

"...i am looking for something that will last and not fade..."

I have my fathers notebooks and journals which date from the nineteen forties onwards, all written in pencil and all still quite legible. Also my mothers diaries from the fifties onwards, in ink and they are fine too.

Some of these have spent years in lofts, the garden journals sat in sheds and greenhouses for decades. So choose whatever writing implement your happy with and I think your notes will last as long as the book will.

Quality of paper might actually be more important and of course Moleskine books use excellent quality paper.

 

[rik_uk3]

Jeeze louise Rik, now you've opened the door for the whole "carbon footprint" thingy!

I use a pen for my journals but no one will use mine for anything but tinder in the future.

Gordy

Get a Zoom and solar charger, 21st century bushcraft mate, sod the carbon footprint you only live once

 

[AuldJum]

Fisher space pen for me, does well enough for my 'bushie book' lol

Off topic

Manesium stored as powder for any period of time makes it less effective than of a block.

 

[forestwalker]

I think thats a myth. I am think nasa used a mechanical pencil which cost like £100 each which when the puplic found out about there was a public outcry, Nasa were worreid about using pencil as they could break and get into the shuttles parts. Fisher developed the Space Pen and offered it to NASA.

Even that would worry me in a space setting. Imagine a small broken off piece of lead, floating around in the cabin. Imagine the eye of an astronaut at a critical point. Imagine some acceleration, or even circulating air. NASA have -- or at least had -- people who were paid to be
well and truly paranoid.

but back to the subject of pen or pencil i would say how long do you want it to last? I have a diary from my grandad from when he was 20 writen in pen and it has not faded yet.

The forensics people I once talked to said that pencil was virtually impossible to actually erase, and I would expect no measurable fading in a *long* time (it is pretty much graphite dust forced into the paper). And certain ink and paper combinations will not last very long, while others will, and proper "archive" ink (a decent stationary store can tell you which ones are approved) will not fade for a long time.

 

[GordonM]

Get a Zoom and solar charger, 21st century bushcraft mate, sod the carbon footprint you only live once

I'm with you mate!

Gordy