My XXL is 670 grammes, the DofE Award branded jacket version
http://www.dofeshop.org/shop/ProductDetails.aspx?id=149&large=on&sucat=47&cat=25&scat=2
http://www.dofeshop.org/shop/ProductDetails.aspx?id=149&large=on&sucat=47&cat=25&scat=2
Insulating jacket
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It is the Keela Advance Belay JACKET rather than the Over the head Smock; from there it is only in black and has an embroidered badge but other than that the same as you buy elsewhere. Do check the P+P though.
No connection etc other than I am an award leader in Scouts
No connection etc other than I am an award leader in Scouts
Unless you're going for temperatures lower than -15, avoid down.
I would look at either Snugpak or Nanok, not only the jacket but also the salopettes. Digging the Nanok SF Olive/White Reversible lately...
I would look at either Snugpak or Nanok, not only the jacket but also the salopettes. Digging the Nanok SF Olive/White Reversible lately...
Like Imagedude I've got a mountaineering background and have been using the belay jacket concept for years now. It has pretty much replaced the layering system for me due to it's simplicity. When you're active, even in cold weather, all you need is a base layer or thin insulating layer under your wind or waterproof. Then, when you stop, you just put your belay jacket on top of everything to stay warm while you're resting.
I've been using a Montane Bivvy jacket for years (I can't seem to kill it), and a Patagonia DAS parka.
Cheers, Michael.
I've been using a Montane Bivvy jacket for years (I can't seem to kill it), and a Patagonia DAS parka.
Cheers, Michael.
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Exactly the same summer & winter in Northumberland hillwalks Baselayer with either a sweatshirt or Waterproof and put on a sleeka when I stop
Since we are talking about fairly warm temperatures, you don't need all hat much. I think something like the Patagonia DAS parka will serve you very well. The Mountain Hardware Compressor Hoody might be another option. You can see me wearing the Patagonia DAS parka here: http://woodtrekker.blogspot.com/2012/12/trip-report-kaaterskill-high-peak_21.html
It fits inside the front pocket of the backpack you see int he picture with some extra room left over.
For warmer temperatures like the ones you are talking about I like synthetic insulation (Primaloft One). The reason is that as a belay jacket (something you will put on when resting), it will most likely go on over damp or wet base and mid layers. The synthetic insulation is less effected by the moisture. It is not going to be an issue with water coming from the outside, but rather with sweat management. The time you will need the jacket the most will be when you are sweaty and stop for some rest. Also, when dealing with temperatures about 0C, the jackets are not so thick as to make much of a difference weight wise when comparing down to synthetic. If we are talking about jackets designed for -40C, then it's a different issue.
Anyway, I use the Patagonia DAS parka for my outer jacket, and I use it exactly in the manner you describe. I have been happy with it, and use it in temperatures down to -18C.
It fits inside the front pocket of the backpack you see int he picture with some extra room left over.
For warmer temperatures like the ones you are talking about I like synthetic insulation (Primaloft One). The reason is that as a belay jacket (something you will put on when resting), it will most likely go on over damp or wet base and mid layers. The synthetic insulation is less effected by the moisture. It is not going to be an issue with water coming from the outside, but rather with sweat management. The time you will need the jacket the most will be when you are sweaty and stop for some rest. Also, when dealing with temperatures about 0C, the jackets are not so thick as to make much of a difference weight wise when comparing down to synthetic. If we are talking about jackets designed for -40C, then it's a different issue.
Anyway, I use the Patagonia DAS parka for my outer jacket, and I use it exactly in the manner you describe. I have been happy with it, and use it in temperatures down to -18C.
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Recently got given a Haglofs Essen down jacket for my birthday. Can't recomend it highly enough. An excellent, warm, light weight, small pack size jacket. Just put a waterproof shell over the top and your sorted. Expenceive though, has to be said. But if you can stretch to it, you won't be disappointed. Surprisingly warm given the size!
I have the desert camo/blue version of this. http://www.outdoorknitwear.com/store/product.php?product=66
They are great kit. Very warm and could be proofed too.
Might have to buy me a green one now they've come down in price. Were £59.99.
They are great kit. Very warm and could be proofed too.
Might have to buy me a green one now they've come down in price. Were £59.99.
Synthetic does not absorb water like down or wool so you will retain more insulation with a synthetic fill.
ihave a montane prism 1 and its very good as is alot of their gear but i would try it on before buying a can be quite a technical fit.
plus the shell is showerproof but the jacket is just as warm when wet as its primaloft.
plus the shell is showerproof but the jacket is just as warm when wet as its primaloft.
I used to think Rab stuff great, but I'm not so keen any more - they are going for volume over quality and as I have a link to the aftersales team, I know they are getting busier.
I bought a Merrell Primaloft jacket for about £50 and it's superb. With a fleece under I was walking the dogs at -2 with a keen wind and was comfy.
I've had the Mountain Equipment Fitzroy jacket for years now and it's probably the best jacket i've ever owned. It's synthetic with 100g Primaloft One in the main body and 60g in the arms and hood, it's windproof and getting on for waterproof but not quite, mine goes with me on pretty much every trip.
Matt
Matt
I have a Rab Belay jacket which is my favourite. Light, comfortable and warm. Loads of pockets and with a good hood. Slim enough to layer if it gets wet or really cold.
I'm surprised nobody mentions the Arcteryx Atom Hoody. Best jacket EVER!!! There are 2 versions (LT light & SV severe). I have the LT on it is by far the best jacket I have ever owned. Light & warm. It is an active layer but I have used it from -10 C to +18 C.
Buy one, you will not regret it.
Here:
http://www.arcteryx.com/Product.aspx?EN/Mens/Mid_Layer-Sweaters/Atom-LT-Hoody#
Buy one, you will not regret it.
Here:
http://www.arcteryx.com/Product.aspx?EN/Mens/Mid_Layer-Sweaters/Atom-LT-Hoody#
