In Despair

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Tengu

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Trying to get my house cleared but I have been sick...still weak,

And the Estate agent is onto me to get it viewable.

I have no one to help

This is doing my mind no good; dream of it every night.

Im glad I dont remember dreams
 
Can you change the way you look at it?
rather than being a chore, can you spin it so it's a benefit in some way?
It wont change the amount of work involved but it will mean you wont be so down about it.
Every step is a step closer...
 
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Where abouts are you based Tengu? Depending on distance you may get some helping hands (if you would actually want semi-random folk helping that is, that might be an even bigger burden!)
 
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May I make a suggestion that is helping me.

Look for just one shelf or a table that is full. Have a bucket for dump stuff, a box for move it on stuff and another box for keeping it. When that shelf is empty stop. Don’t be tempted to do another one straight away. Take break, do something outside, check BcUK. Allow yourself no more than three shelves, tables or 2 meter square patches per day but at least one. Once a week get rid of the move it on and the skip piles. Obviously you keep the boxes.
Once a week give yourself a day off.
I think you’ll find it quite motivating
- but don’t push it or let it push you. Just do what you’ve allocated yourself.

Very best of luck.
 
If I can add:
Doing a small part at your own pace and according to your own schedule gives you back just a little control over what seemed uncontrollable.

I’ve said don’t let it push you but it will work best and help your motivation if you are determined to do at least one slice of the elephant each day.

By the same token try not to take your day off because you don’t feel like sorting stuff. (Just choose the easiest available bit on that day) Decide which day you intend to take off in advance - you are in control.
 
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A timetable also helps. Treat is as if you were going to work. Start at 9am, work until lunch. Break. Resume until 5pm. Stop. Rest.

Have a specific area for each "working day" and work out your "working days" in advance.

That's what I've had to do for moving stuff to the new place, I run my own business so the only way it was going to work was by scheduling my moving just like I have to schedule my other working days.

Once you've done a few days like that, you get to know how much is realistic and how much you will achieve each day. This will (a) allow you not to beat yourself up and (b) get a clear estimate of when it will be cleared to the estate agent.

GC
 
Property will sell regardless of the way it looks when it meets the correct market value - anything else is dependent upon how much effort you want to put into its presentation Vs how much money you actually want to walk away with.

Hence - Auctions.
 
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Property will sell regardless of the way it looks when it meets the correct market value - anything else is dependent upon how much effort you want to put into its presentation Vs how much money you actually want to walk away with.

Hence - Auctions.
The thing is Tengu's stuff will still need to be sorted when it sells. If it's left as is now, the property is very likely to sell for less so there'll be less to spend on the next property. It's a very short-lived psychological gain combined with an actual financial loss. Sorting it out now is really the only sensible move.
 
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The thing is Tengu's stuff will still need to be sorted when it sells. If it's left as is now, the property is very likely to sell for less so there'll be less to spend on the next property. It's a very short-lived psychological gain combined with an actual financial loss. Sorting it out now is really the only sensible move.
Whilst i agree - and I maybe wrong - I believe Tengu is living/working at the other end of the country.
If its sold in Auction ( maybe wrong ) I think all items 'left' become the new properties owners problem.
Really does depend upon how much ( badly ) one wants to move a property on - miss the market , let it drag etc. Even with estate agent chains - they can fail and one is back to square one. Needing to find a new buyer.

For some it can make sense but ultimately it depends upon how much effort one wants to and is willing to put in vs the self created parts of stress associated with not getting a man in with a van or dealing with it.

Really does depend exactly on how much stuff there is and what state of play the house is currently in.
 
Whilst i agree - and I maybe wrong - I believe Tengu is living/working at the other end of the country.
If its sold in Auction ( maybe wrong ) I think all items 'left' become the new properties owners problem.
Really does depend upon how much ( badly ) one wants to move a property on - miss the market , let it drag etc. Even with estate agent chains - they can fail and one is back to square one. Needing to find a new buyer.

For some it can make sense but ultimately it depends upon how much effort one wants to and is willing to put in vs the self created parts of stress associated with not getting a man in with a van or dealing with it.

Really does depend exactly on how much stuff there is and what state of play the house is currently in.

Indeed.

And if want to sell without stuff in, that's also why house clearance people exist.

When my father passed, I had to deal with his house. He hadn't lived in it for a few years- he'd been in sheltered accommodation after a stroke- and it wasn't in the best state although it was heated and weather-tight. I was living over 300 miles away and working...... so I visited with my sister, we took a few things we wanted to keep as memories, made sure that computers etc were securely dealt with, then we got a house clearance firm in. Then sold it as was, got a reasonable price although not top of the "market" (well, I got reasonable offers once I got a grip of the local estate agent who was trying to sell under price to mates). Of the 3 similar reasonable offers I had, I went for the family who wanted to move in and renovate, they were cash buyers.

In the light of my recent experience of my "project" in west Wales, I have no doubt in hindsight that that was the best option. Yes, in theory I could have cleared it myself, renovated it and then sold. But doing so would have cost me my job and quite possibly my marriage. It's not always about maximizing sale price, some things are far more important.

Yeah, property priced suitably will sell. It's those properties in areas like West Wales which were bought at above market value during COVID that are not shifting, because sellers expect to sell for more than they bought for- but they are over priced now because (a) there's a glut of similar properties with folks offloading second homes and (b) many of them are really proper remote and need serious renovation- they only fetched what they did because London buyers fleeing the capital had a lot of spare dosh.

The cash buyer who wants a project and buys at a bit below "market value" can overall be a much better deal than waiting ages in a chain which collapses and expenses get repeated for the next set and the "market value" drops in the interim. Or the buyer plays brinkmanship to get the seller to accept a lower offer to avoid collapsing the chain and being back to square one...... and even a "simple" cash sale can take anything up to 6 months to go from offer to completion.

Life is complicated, it's about what one's priorities are. It's not admitting defeat to take the option that works best overall for oneself, there's no One True Way- just what the best (least worst?) option is for a particular time/situation.

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Indeed.

And if want to sell without stuff in, that's also why house clearance people exist.

When my father passed, I had to deal with his house. He hadn't lived in it for a few years- he'd been in sheltered accommodation after a stroke- and it wasn't in the best state although it was heated and weather-tight. I was living over 300 miles away and working...... so I visited with my sister, we took a few things we wanted to keep as memories, made sure that computers etc were securely dealt with, then we got a house clearance firm in. Then sold it as was, got a reasonable price although not top of the "market" (well, I got reasonable offers once I got a grip of the local estate agent who was trying to sell under price to mates). Of the 3 similar reasonable offers I had, I went for the family who wanted to move in and renovate, they were cash buyers.

In the light of my recent experience of my "project" in west Wales, I have no doubt in hindsight that that was the best option. Yes, in theory I could have cleared it myself, renovated it and then sold. But doing so would have cost me my job and quite possibly my marriage. It's not always about maximizing sale price, some things are far more important.

Yeah, property priced suitably will sell. It's those properties in areas like West Wales which were bought at above market value during COVID that are not shifting, because sellers expect to sell for more than they bought for- but they are over priced now because (a) there's a glut of similar properties with folks offloading second homes and (b) many of them are really proper remote and need serious renovation- they only fetched what they did because London buyers fleeing the capital had a lot of spare dosh.

The cash buyer who wants a project and buys at a bit below "market value" can overall be a much better deal than waiting ages in a chain which collapses and expenses get repeated for the next set and the "market value" drops in the interim. Or the buyer plays brinkmanship to get the seller to accept a lower offer to avoid collapsing the chain and being back to square one...... and even a "simple" cash sale can take anything up to 6 months to go from offer to completion.

Life is complicated, it's about what one's priorities are. It's not admitting defeat to take the option that works best overall for oneself, there's no One True Way- just what the best (least worst?) option is for a particular time/situation.

GC

Agreed - I've purchased a few properties in my time and most at BMV - and the ones I didn't buy were just the ones where the money I was willing to offer was not accepted . No harm- No foul - No bad feelings - it needed to work for me on my side of the fence as a refurb/flip/rental/option as much as it needed to work for them. Thats a win-win - , not always possible but can be a thing and I will admit unconventional.

Probate can be a major issue for people - just too many emotional memories and not at the time when you haven't healed from grief to do it without the stress.

The plus side to an auction is , you can put your minimum accepted sales price on it. If you don't get the price you want - you don't sell it - simples. But you need to be honest with yourself and willing to not chase the 'full market value' of it - and if it needs substantial work to get to market , then there really isn't any point ( most of the time ) in doing it in the first place. You may install your idea of a 'nice' kitchen just for the new owners to rip it out..
 
Another option, although delaying the inevitable is to get a storage unit and get it moved into that. You can work through it in your own time then once you have your new place sorted.

You’ll pay a bit more but buy yourself time
 
Another option, although delaying the inevitable is to get a storage unit and get it moved into that. You can work through it in your own time then once you have your new place sorted.

You’ll pay a bit more but buy yourself time

Storage units are useful, but you need a plan for extraction- and to decide the location (old place vs new place). The cost can add up unless you have a clear plan for leaving as well as going in. You are indeed buying time!

Bear in mind too, that prices are increasing for storage as modern houses are so small.

Lots of options, no One True Way.

GC
 
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Only if you ask permission first.

(I have had a variety of Bad Experiences in my life but oddly the one that has stuck in my memory is a huge big hug right out of the blue...)

I have been working on this all winter (dont you talk to me about elephants...)

I said I would be in Scotland for work mid April? I dont think they mind too much but there is a blatant subtext of we need you ASAP...

And of course that is bad if like me you try to be reliable

YES, someone to help would be super (and I would make it worth your while)

I need to get stuff in the container. (Work will pay for it to be shipped) Rest will go to charity or be dumped (I am paying for a man with a van)

But shifting stuff is a two man job.

Ive had a bug and havent been able to work in a while.

I am (mostly) better but I am still weak and will be for a while.

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