How long could you survive?

vizsla

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Jun 6, 2010
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Go for it. I hear what you say about fishing, but could you live off the fruit of the woods?

Do you mean living purely of plants within the woods so no fishing hedgerow foraging etc? If so i think anyone would strugle
What about if there places to fish within the woods mate
 

mountainm

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Do you mean living purely of plants within the woods so no fishing hedgerow foraging etc? If so i think anyone would strugle
What about if there places to fish within the woods mate

It's unrealistic to place these kind of restrictions - the reason we're top dog is that we're resourceful, resourcefulness is a survival trait.
 

Adze

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Modern day lowland woodland, without access to freshwater fishing or shoreline, staying within the confines of the law, either in or out of season without a prior season to prepare for any potential hardship? I think even the best of the best would start losing condition by about day 2. There are things which just aren't available in sufficient profusion any more as the whole of the UK has been too managed for too long.

Given TEOTWAWKI and no local human competition and it might be a different story, or given preparatory time to get a wild garden in order, some extra time maybe. Without help though... it's still pretty limited. Cooperation is what has stopped humans from being marked for extinction for all these millenia, without help long term survival is all but impossible I suspect.
 

Ivan...

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Is this a single man effort ? and with respect how can it be policed ? for instance if there were more than a couple , they could all watch each other, also provide help, support , safety, staying sane etc. I for one would give it a go , with , a couple of felloow survivees, and also have a site where it is possible , because i know it may sound boring but health and safety are of paramount importance , the rules would have to be well and truly stated beforehand .

Or I could provide the site , and monitor progress, safety etc , as its far enough away from civilisation , to make it very hard to cheat as it were . only a thought .

Ivan...
 

nuggets

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Jan 31, 2010
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well the OP states , can you survive on only what you can fit in a ruck sack !!!!!!........................ see you in a month then !! :rofl:
 

udamiano

On a new journey
Hi Ivan,

I already have a large woodland site, and as for 'policing' well I'm sorry but you will have to take my word for it, unless you can think of a way that it can be policed without interfering with the experiment? . I think part of the challenge is the fact that it is for a single person, and the solitude that encompasses this forms part of the daily struggle of the experiment.
I'm not the type of person that cheats, this will be for more my own personal satisfaction more than anything else and any form of cheating, would just be cheating myself. I teach these skills on a regular basis, and would not ask anything of any student to do something I would not personally do, or have done. besides the basic low down is I'm actually really looking forward to doing this. it nice sometimes to give oneself a MOT just to make sure. i was also going to consult my doctor before and after the experiment, just to be on the safe side

Day
 

Ivan...

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Apologies Day , no offence mean't as regards cheating , perhaps didn't read the whole thread thoroughly , now i understand , the best of British to you sir .

Maybe in the future if a group would like to try a similair experiment , they could let me know , as i for one will have a go , and as stated have the perfect venue for the challenge .
 

Martyn

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Is this a single man effort ? and with respect how can it be policed ? for instance if there were more than a couple , they could all watch each other, also provide help, support , safety, staying sane etc. I for one would give it a go , with , a couple of felloow survivees, and also have a site where it is possible , because i know it may sound boring but health and safety are of paramount importance , the rules would have to be well and truly stated beforehand .

Or I could provide the site , and monitor progress, safety etc , as its far enough away from civilisation , to make it very hard to cheat as it were . only a thought .

Ivan...

Relax mate. :)

It's for learning and the key word is trust. If someone said they did it according to the challenge, then that is that. :)

Obviously someone could cheat, but that is between them and their god. What's the point? There is as much to learn from analysing failure as a success and the kudos is knowing that you have given it a shot.
 

mountainm

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Apologies Day , no offence mean't as regards cheating , perhaps didn't read the whole thread thoroughly , now i understand , the best of British to you sir .

Maybe in the future if a group would like to try a similair experiment , they could let me know , as i for one will have a go , and as stated have the perfect venue for the challenge .


Will you have a diary room?
 

udamiano

On a new journey
Apologies Day , no offence mean't as regards cheating , perhaps didn't read the whole thread thoroughly , now i understand , the best of British to you sir .

Maybe in the future if a group would like to try a similair experiment , they could let me know , as i for one will have a go , and as stated have the perfect venue for the challenge .

No offence taken, just replying to what would be a reasonable question.:hatscarf:
 
Nov 29, 2004
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"...So the consensus that a week would be doable, but mainly because you'd be living off your fat reserves, but anything longer would start to get pretty rough?..."

Pretty much yes, I would add that the 'pain' of feeling hungry isn't really as bad as folks might imagine, as long as you can fill your belly with something, even if it is very little. Its the lack of energy that is soul destroying, simply walking up a slight incline can become a real effort and that after only four days or so.

Good luck udamiano, I'm looking forward to reading about your week. :)
 

Martyn

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Modern day lowland woodland, without access to freshwater fishing or shoreline, staying within the confines of the law, either in or out of season without a prior season to prepare for any potential hardship? I think even the best of the best would start losing condition by about day 2. There are things which just aren't available in sufficient profusion any more as the whole of the UK has been too managed for too long.

Given TEOTWAWKI and no local human competition and it might be a different story, or given preparatory time to get a wild garden in order, some extra time maybe. Without help though... it's still pretty limited. Cooperation is what has stopped humans from being marked for extinction for all these millenia, without help long term survival is all but impossible I suspect.

I dunno, if you live somewhere with plenty of bunnies, I would think you could get a regular supply once you've cracked the runs and wotnot. Same with squirrels. Finding carbs will be a problem, but protein should be available in enough quantity to prevent too much hunger. The challenge is catching it and keeping up your willpower and positive mental attitude.
 

greenwood

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Jan 2, 2012
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Wild Wiltshire
I think this really depends on the individual, equipment you have and knowledge, if you were suddenly found your self in this situation from say a air plane crash in a remote forest, then I would have to do what I could to stay alive by any means, but as said in previous posts, depends on person.
If you are talking going up the woods to survive, it would take some time to get in to a routine and catching /finding food, harder in winter months obviously.
I would personal find it hard not with trapping but in my lack of knowledge of whats edible with regards to berry's etc.
 
Nov 29, 2004
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I dunno, if you live somewhere with plenty of bunnies, I would think you could get a regular supply once you've cracked the runs and wotnot. Same with squirrels. Finding carbs will be a problem, but protein should be available in enough quantity to prevent too much hunger. The challenge is catching it and keeping up your willpower and positive mental attitude.

udamiano doesn't get to take in any snares or the parts for making some. I once spent a week on an estate in Perthshire desperatly trying to catch just one rabbit or hare, there were four of us and we had about eighty snares out, not one, not in a whole week and they were everywhere. However I used to live on an estate in the borders where I would occasionaly put out some snares just on the off chance I'd have something for the pot, and almost always there was. :)
 

udamiano

On a new journey
udamiano doesn't get to take in any snares or the parts for making some. I once spent a week on an estate in Perthshire desperatly trying to catch just one rabbit or hare, there were four of us and we had about eighty snares out, not one, not in a whole week and they were everywhere. However I used to live on an estate in the borders where I would occasionaly put out some snares just on the off chance I'd have something for the pot, and almost always there was. :)

Hi Sandbender,

snares can be easily constructed from resources found in the woodland, so to answer your question 'No i wont be taking in any snares or parts'

The basic list so far is

clothes
Knife
Axe
Billy Can
Camera And diary

and me

I will post a complete list of everything i will be taking into the woods with me including the clothes on my back, i will also post such things as my weight for those of you medically minded.
 

Adze

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Hi Sandbender,

snares can be easily constructed from resources found in the woodland, so to answer your question 'No i wont be taking in any snares or parts'

The basic list so far is

clothes
Knife
Axe
Billy Can
Camera And diary

and me

I will post a complete list of everything i will be taking into the woods with me including the clothes on my back, i will also post such things as my weight for those of you medically minded.

Add a FAK - no point being a martyr ;)
 

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