Heating a smaller lavvu

[Twodogs]

Just brought a helsport lavvu and with all new items you start thinking of other toys ...lol
As its the smaller 4/6 man size maybe a full on stove is going to be over kill with the UK climate ?
maybe a vapalux lantern and an ikea hobo filled with charcoal ?
or a folding fire box ?
what do other people use ?
cheers
Twodogs

 

[antwerpman]

I don't know how big your tent is but 1 /you have to be careful with a woodstove in a smaller lavvu, I wouldn't do it and 2/ you have to be very careful with any fire in a synthetic tent.
Maybe a heatpal, but try to find it in a boat shop that will be cheaper than tentipi dealers

http://www.tentipi.com/index.php?id=165

 

[cappi]

Hi i use the kifaru 4 man medium stove,i would recomend it the stove that is,if you intend to do,winter tipi,or hunt a lot ,a good invest ment in your safety and comfort is to buy the stove helesport recommend,you then have a garentee.I now live in pyrenees mts and even in summer i take the stove,somtimes if rains all night stove on kettle out.Anttwerpman is correct you must be careful,inside with open fires and fire boxes,a good and safe method without a stove ,is to rig a bash outside the tipi ,on an angle to have a fire box their.STOVE is the gold star ,but the stove intended for the make ,hope this helps,cappi.PS bang up a few phots to inspire you ?

 

[EarlyRiser]

You have to be a little more careful using charcoal in a confined space as carbon monoxide is always produced regardless of the amount of oxygen present.

http://www.hpa.org.uk/web/HPAweb&HPAwebStandard/HPAweb_C/1195733793495

I have a 5 man arctic ridge tent (smaller than a lot of tipis and lavvus) for which I've built a small stove from vegetable oil cans. It's similar to ones I've built for tipis I've had, just a little smaller. Just need to wait for it to get cold enough to fire it up.

First time I used a stove in a tipi it got so hot no-one could stand up.

Cheers

Tom

 

[cappi]

You have to be a little more careful using charcoal in a confined space as carbon monoxide is always produced regardless of the amount of oxygen present.

http://www.hpa.org.uk/web/HPAweb&HPAwebStandard/HPAweb_C/1195733793495

I have a 5 man arctic ridge tent (smaller than a lot of tipis and lavvus) for which I've built a small stove from vegetable oil cans. It's similar to ones I've built for tipis I've had, just a little smaller. Just need to wait for it to get cold enough to fire it up.

First time I used a stove in a tipi it got so hot no-one could stand up.

Cheers

Tom

HOW CORRECT YOU ARE "HEAVEN SPRINGS TO MIND"

 

[Gill]

i got this made up a few months ago from a mate

 

[Nonsuch]

I've got a Varrie 5 and have experiemented with heating - not very successfully. I tried a Yukon firebox and found it very smoky and found I got hot embers on my meltable kit. I tried it with a stove and found there wasn't enough room to get in and move around safely. Both options work fine on my larger Varrie 9 so I concluded that small laavus are better without. I think a HeatPal or a pressure lantern would be more what you should be looking for.

Nonsuch

 

[eraaij]

The Helsport has a fire-resistant coating, but I would not venture lighting an open fire (box or no box) anyway. There are several nice stoves available from various makers.

Also, check outhttp://www.moosecamp.nl - they have a nice collection of stoves for Tentipi laavuus - they will fit the Helports too.

 

[Twodogs]

Many thanks for all your comments ,all very helpfull
Twodogs
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[Barblade]

Just spotted this post on Stoves in the tipi, IMHO unless it's pretty nippy (below 0) you probably won't need one but your mileage may vary - I had a Feuerhand kerosene storm lantern for light and found that this took the edge of the chill enough to sleep without a bag or blankets (though this was in summer), similarly, I suspect making a brew before bedtime will have the same effect.

 

[rik_uk3]

The Vapalux throws out about a kilowatt of heat so enough to heat your tent (you could make a foil shield to block out the light at night I guess), how about a paraffin 'bowl fire' which unlike most wood burners will burn all night unattended as will your Vapalux.

The Heatpal meths heater are very good, look out on ebay USA for the older Gloys Heatpal, they are larger but are better IMHO. They will burn methanol no problem and thats less than half the price of meths these days.

Obviously you will ventilate your tent but really watch burning charcoal, very nasty fumes, a lot of people died following hurricane Katrina after trying to cook on charcoal indoors.

Some of the options

111T with a tea strainer over the burner radiates a massive amount of heat, tin foil pie plate behind it and it works really well

Bowl fire (crap picture sorry)

Older Heatpal as you can see there is a support in place for a pot or kettle

Have you spoken to Greg (North61) over on CCS? He and his young kids camp in -30 up in Alaska and he makes his own stoves, he'll let you have plans if you ask him

 

[Twodogs]

Cracking post there Richard ,
loads of food for thought
Cheers
Cliff

 

[antwerpman]

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p214/chrisdeschepper/CSC_0244.jpg
this is the one I use, you can find it here.Very satisfied from it, I use it for years allready.
Solidly built stainless steel, weight all included 11 kg and it kept me absolutely warm at -15°
You can find it here http://www.schuh-werk.de/webs/holzk...op=about%20us&myid=14&mainkat=z&type=main

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p214/chrisdeschepper/DSC01402.jpg

 

[littlebiglane]

How about this? Cheap. Saw one in action and was VERY impressed for its small size. Of course it is cast iron so it'll weigh a bit. But is small and relatively inexpensive.

http://www.canvasandcast.com/product_details_5.htm

 

[antwerpman]

How about this? Cheap. Saw one in action and was VERY impressed for its small size. Of course it is cast iron so it'll weigh a bit. But is small and relatively inexpensive.

http://www.canvasandcast.com/product_details_5.htm

looks like a beautiful little stove, it should be airtight and burn very well, only a bit heavy