Heating a smaller lavvu

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Twodogs

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Just brought a helsport lavvu and with all new items you start thinking of other toys ...lol
As its the smaller 4/6 man size maybe a full on stove is going to be over kill with the UK climate ?
maybe a vapalux lantern and an ikea hobo filled with charcoal ?
or a folding fire box ?
what do other people use ?
cheers
Twodogs
 
Hi i use the kifaru 4 man medium stove,i would recomend it the stove that is,if you intend to do,winter tipi,or hunt a lot ,a good invest ment in your safety and comfort is to buy the stove helesport recommend,you then have a garentee.I now live in pyrenees mts and even in summer i take the stove,somtimes if rains all night stove on kettle out.Anttwerpman is correct you must be careful,inside with open fires and fire boxes,a good and safe method without a stove ,is to rig a bash outside the tipi ,on an angle to have a fire box their.STOVE is the gold star ,but the stove intended for the make ,hope this helps,cappi.PS bang up a few phots to inspire you ?
 

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You have to be a little more careful using charcoal in a confined space as carbon monoxide is always produced regardless of the amount of oxygen present.

http://www.hpa.org.uk/web/HPAweb&HPAwebStandard/HPAweb_C/1195733793495

I have a 5 man arctic ridge tent (smaller than a lot of tipis and lavvus) for which I've built a small stove from vegetable oil cans. It's similar to ones I've built for tipis I've had, just a little smaller. Just need to wait for it to get cold enough to fire it up.

First time I used a stove in a tipi it got so hot no-one could stand up.

Cheers

Tom
 
You have to be a little more careful using charcoal in a confined space as carbon monoxide is always produced regardless of the amount of oxygen present.

http://www.hpa.org.uk/web/HPAweb&HPAwebStandard/HPAweb_C/1195733793495

I have a 5 man arctic ridge tent (smaller than a lot of tipis and lavvus) for which I've built a small stove from vegetable oil cans. It's similar to ones I've built for tipis I've had, just a little smaller. Just need to wait for it to get cold enough to fire it up.

First time I used a stove in a tipi it got so hot no-one could stand up.

Cheers

Tom

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I've got a Varrie 5 and have experiemented with heating - not very successfully. I tried a Yukon firebox and found it very smoky and found I got hot embers on my meltable kit. I tried it with a stove and found there wasn't enough room to get in and move around safely. Both options work fine on my larger Varrie 9 so I concluded that small laavus are better without. I think a HeatPal or a pressure lantern would be more what you should be looking for.

Nonsuch
 
The Helsport has a fire-resistant coating, but I would not venture lighting an open fire (box or no box) anyway. There are several nice stoves available from various makers.

Also, check outhttp://www.moosecamp.nl - they have a nice collection of stoves for Tentipi laavuus - they will fit the Helports too.
 
Just spotted this post on Stoves in the tipi, IMHO unless it's pretty nippy (below 0) you probably won't need one but your mileage may vary - I had a Feuerhand kerosene storm lantern for light and found that this took the edge of the chill enough to sleep without a bag or blankets (though this was in summer), similarly, I suspect making a brew before bedtime will have the same effect.
 
The Vapalux throws out about a kilowatt of heat so enough to heat your tent (you could make a foil shield to block out the light at night I guess), how about a paraffin 'bowl fire' which unlike most wood burners will burn all night unattended as will your Vapalux.

The Heatpal meths heater are very good, look out on ebay USA for the older Gloys Heatpal, they are larger but are better IMHO. They will burn methanol no problem and thats less than half the price of meths these days.

Obviously you will ventilate your tent but really watch burning charcoal, very nasty fumes, a lot of people died following hurricane Katrina after trying to cook on charcoal indoors.

Some of the options

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111T with a tea strainer over the burner radiates a massive amount of heat, tin foil pie plate behind it and it works really well

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Bowl fire (crap picture sorry)

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Older Heatpal as you can see there is a support in place for a pot or kettle

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Have you spoken to Greg (North61) over on CCS? He and his young kids camp in -30 up in Alaska and he makes his own stoves, he'll let you have plans if you ask him

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