Has the bubble burst?

Janne

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Dare I suggest there are only so many times you can go to the woods and rig a tarp, make fire, cook something, wittle some wood and gaze vacantly into the distance before questioning why the hell you're there and without a rifle to go hunting!

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Or fishing. The times I was without a rod, where the nature experience was the only thing, I can basically count on one fingers hand.
They were the first ‘sessions’ I did with my little son in UK, to teach him the basics, and to teach him to sleep without mummy next door.
 

Wayland

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Bushcraft is just a trendy term for something I have been doing all my life really.

I go outdoors, I go to great places, I camp, I cook on open fires, I make things.

Sometimes I do it with a camera, sometimes I do it in historical costume, sometimes I just do it.

The truth is it's not something I set out to do, it's just who I am.

I see solutions in the outdoors, rather than problems.
 

Tony

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I think there's more people doing bushcraft now than ever before, it's become mainstream and normalised in many ways. There's also the huge increase in FB groups etc where there's the immediate gratification of likes and people noticing the new pictures etc, Instagram etc where communication is a a 5 second perusal of images.
So, in some ways Bushcraft is just bushcraft now instead of the exciting adventure it was all those years ago.

There's also those that move on to new subjects and hobbies so there's a natural migration and it's harder to bring in new people now because there's a surprising amount fo people that don't even know what a forum is, they just think that everything is FB etc.

I dare say it will come round again, we regularly get old members popping in and they're reassured we're still here.
 

Robson Valley

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I suppose that going camping still offers a lot of novelty to the curious.
Some persist in outdoors and wilderness activities.
Most go back to hunting in the grocery stores or the local pub.
I would shrivel up and die with all the permissions required.
How you all get so much done in such a confined space is amazing.

Hunting, fishing and campcraft were expectations in my family.
No summer wilderness trips were ever without lessons of some sort.
Are you all doing this, sharing with your kids? I \ve seen some grand trip reports here
with everybody doing camp craft activities and chores.
 

XRV John

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I think it has changed to a term that is now in the common parlance

Having taken my 2 daughters (10 and 14 this year) to the Great Northern Bushcraft Conference for the last 2 years plus a couple of good weekends in the woods, when they talk to their mates it is time with dad doing fun stuff and learning cool stuff from his mates.

For work and my lodge it is unfathomable mysticism where I come back happier and less stressed.

For me it is a term that means I'm not camping at Haven with all mod cons


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Wayland

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Snip> There's also the huge increase in FB groups etc where there's the immediate gratification of likes and people noticing the new pictures etc, Instagram etc where communication is a a 5 second perusal of images.
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I certainly do more on FaceBook now than I used to, the visual attraction of images definitely has something to do with that but also the fact that there is a greater diversity of people on FB. I post there and get responses from friends, family, acquaintances and even old school friends.

When I joined BcUK a good post garnered responses from a wide variety of people, all be it with a common interest. Now, sadly, the response is much lower, usually a handful of people and probably the same handful most of the time.

As a result, I try to post in both places but inevitably I post more where I am likely to get better feedback. There is an immediacy about FB and similar social media that is very attractive.

Having said that, I actually prefer the way a forum works, I think it is much easier to find information on this format although I do find it frustrating when people post threads that need pictures and then allow the pictures to expire. Many fantastic posts made in the past have suffered that way and it is a great shame.

There are many reasons for that, changes made to picture hosting sites, the shifting nature of image address's and the like. I host my pictures on my own web space and always tried to update my image links if they changed, but the new forum post editing restrictions make that difficult or impossible to do now, so many of my old threads are dying the same slow death as a result. I must confess, that makes me reluctant to put in the effort to create threads like I used to because I know they have a more limited life.

I came across an old thread talking about people's favourite threads the other day. It was very gratifying to find a post started by myself mentioned on there but when I visited, I discovered it too had suffered the same sad fate.

Because it was in the Sub Zero forum, where I have some limited "mod powers" I was able to do some remedial editing but due to the changed forum software it is now a pale shadow of the thread it once was.

I understand the sentiment behind the post that started this thread. I too miss the way this forum used to be. It used to be my first and last stop when turning my internet browser on, now I might visit every few days to see if there is anything new. I browse a few threads that are not just about knives and often leave without commenting. I know that makes me part of the problem but the atmosphere is very different and many others have drifted away as well for similar reasons.

I wish I knew how to fix it, but the thing with nostalgia is that you can rarely go back, you just have to move forward. I owe this forum a huge debt, it changed my life in many ways and I am grateful for that. I will try and post more, I may even try to reconstruct some of my posts that have lost their pictures where I can.
 
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uncleboob

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I certainly do more on FaceBook now than I used to, the visual attraction of images definitely has something to do with that but also the fact that there is a greater diversity of people on FB. I post there and get responses from friends, family, acquaintances and even old school friends.

When I joined BcUK a good post garnered responses from a wide number of people, all be it with a common interest. Now, sadly, the response is much lower, usually a handful of people and most probably the same handful most of the time.

As a result, I try to post in both places but inevitably I post more where I am more likely to get some feedback. There is an immediacy about FB and similar social media that is very attractive.

Having said that, I actually prefer the way a forum works, I think it is much easier to find information on this format although I do find it frustrating when people post threads that need pictures and then allow the pictures to expire. Many fantastic posts made in the past have suffered that way and it is a great shame.

There are many reasons for that, changes made to picture hosting sites, the shifting nature of image address's and the like. I host my pictures on my own web space and always tried to update my image links if they changed, but the new forum post editing restrictions make that difficult or impossible to do now, so many of my old threads are dying the same slow death as a result. I must confess, that makes me reluctant to put in the effort to create threads like I used to because I know they have a more limited life.

I came across an old thread talking about people's favourite threads the other day. It was very gratifying to find a post started by myself mentioned on there but when I visited, I discovered it too had suffered the same fate.

Because it was in the Sub Zero forum, where I have some limited "mod powers" I was able to do some remedial editing but due to the changed forum software it is now a pale shadow of the thread it once was.

I understand the sentiment behind the post that started this thread. I too miss the way this forum used to be. It used to be my first and last stop when turning my internet browser on, now I might visit every few days to see if there is anything new. I browse a few threads that are not just about knives and often leave without commenting. I know that makes me part of the problem but the atmosphere is very different and many others have drifted away as well for similar reasons.

I wish I knew how to fix it, but the thing with nostalgia is that you can rarely go back, you just have to move forward. I owe this forum a huge debt, it changed my life in many ways and I am grateful for that. I will try and post more, I may even try to reconstruct some of my posts that have lost their pictures where I can.

The thing with a forum rather than Facebook is it is a ever evolving, searchable reference resource...obviously reliant on the content put forward by its members...I guess it takes more effort but the qualitative experience is better...i am not a fan of FB, full of adverts, data tracking software and people looking for a reason to feel offended.

With regards to whether 'bushcraft' is losing momentum, I think in its mainstream form possibly...all those fad following, nonsense equipment buying people have moved on to the next 'big thing'...most of the people on here I would suspect came to bcuk having already developed a love of the outdoors and will have followed many paths to get here...TBH I'm looking forward to a time when nature can once again have a break from the endless procession of bush crafters and wild campers hacking at nature they have no interest in understanding with equipment they don't know how to use.
 
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i agree a forum is a much better place to gather information than Facebook groups. The feeds are often messy, and previous posts and info are hard to track when so many people are posting pictures.
I only use Facebook nowadays to follow some modelling/wargaming (my other hobby’s) groups. Ironically, it’s the modelling/wargaming forums that I find overwhelming and poorly administrated!
 
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Somewhere in the posts above someone mentioned that" you can stare into the sky until you start thinking why you've come without a rod or s gun to do some hunting". Well i can, day after day. And if i must move my old bones (not because im bored, but to prevent seizing up) I'll start looking for wood, make a snare, pot hanger etc etc., until I can go back to my chair or hammock :)
 
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Broch

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As I say, I prefer the forum format but where are all the people who used to be here?

I don't know Wayland, a quick glance down the responses to this thread and we have a number of old-timers here (with no disrespect to newer members participating):

Tony 2003 (obviously)
Yourself 2005
Klenchblaize 2005
BigSi 2005
Redneck 2005
Toddy 2005
John Fenna 2006
Tengu 2006
Jimbo 2007

Even I've been on here 10 years (a relative newcomer I know :) )

I am personally happy if the fashion component and the 'learn by rote' from RM books has gone.
 

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I don't have a computer or laptop , this forum is my one and only form of social media. I looked at several forums before joining this one, and must admit to guesting here many many times before it joined. I joined almost a year ago but it was still several months before I got the courage to start replying and posting.
I enjoy this forum very much as there is a lot of info and has many different topics which are very useful for my lifestyle as well. As I'm quite isolated as regards friends with the tendency to pop out into the woods or beach to have a bit of fun or chill time I mostly do things solo when I do something. It's nice to share other people's experiences and see the lovely photos of other parts of the country I may never get to. Sometimes a post will inspire me in some way, or make me think about something more.
Most of the other forums never seem to have much activity .
I'm never going to join Facebook or any other social media. BCUK is it for me as it's simply the best there is. But yes even I have noticed that it seems to be the same group of people most of the time. That's good to get to know people. Let's see the positive side.
Is it realy all about likes in response to a post? Yes it's nice to get feed back but seriously do you tell someone everytime they say something I like that comment. It's to me a way to show you agree or like what someone has said without having to post a reply. Much as a nod and smile might be in face to face conversation . If I'm wrong here please excuse me as I'm an old fogy that hates social media. It ruins poeples lives. Yet I feel safe here.
Thanks folks.
 
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The bushcraft-frenzy is only just picking up here in Belgium. Numerous companies who offered paintball, death-rides and kayaking as team-buildingactivities just added 'and bushcraft' at the back of their company-name. Instead of a sandwich they offer spaghetti warmed up in a dutch-oven over an open fire on a tripod. Et voila, 'Bushcraft'!

Same goes for Instagram. I love IG, but I'm constantly unfollowing channels who are getting sponsored for posting a picture daily of them sitting next to a fire, showing off a poor attempt at making a feather stick...
 

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All social groups change over time. I've found this with my motorbike pals. People move have families interests change. Life changes or gets in the way sometimes.
I often wonder what has happened to several good friends I knew years ago, but new people come along and after a while they become the old faces.
 

GuestD

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There is a general malaise currently affecting most branches of consumerism at present, which like it or not, "Bushcraft", has become. Also, with YouTube being crammed with some very informative tutorials, the need to spend on attending courses is also reduced. I know of three small businesses, two supplying goods, one tuition, that folded last year because of falling sales/numbers. As has been already said, the diehards will carry on, and the one's that found it fashionable for a while, will move on to something else.
 
YouTube bushcraft is also suffering a death by strangulation of its own. There are only a few select channels I now consider worth a look.
I won't get into the whole making a list nonsense, but it definitely needs a cull.
I think it's nice to be able to appreciate real outdoor skills as an 'old timer'.
the guys who are naturals in the woods are obvious.
To be frank, the fact we don't have proper access to 'the nature' in this country, probably accounts for the decline in popularity, and abundance of 'unskilled' so called experts...

Anyway, enough ranting. I'm off to film and upload a YouTube video of me doing a tutorial on 'How to use a firesteel, and a review of a Mora Clipper! :emoji_stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 

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