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TeeDee

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Anyone tried this ? I thought it maybe a useful thing to experiment with for longer trips where refrigeration isn't an option but you still get those 'meat' cravings?


 
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Woody girl

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My German isn't good enough to understand any of that!
I've been using burger mixes for years, and they are very good. Granoise (May have got that name wrong, but its something like that) has been my go to for years...probably since the 70's
Hard to find nowadays, but any health food shop does some form of burger mix. Usualy vegetarian, but if you find a good one they taste very good and I don't miss the actual meat.

That beard with the middle missing....
Looks like his headphones slipped a bit :)
 

TLM

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Plant protein in various forms can be bought in any grocery store. They do not taste quite like beef but are not bad, can be spiced up to anything one wants.
 
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Tengu

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Soya upsets my tummy.

Quorn is good; even my delicate stomached Father can eat that with no ill effects.

I would be dubious about anything else.
 
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I quite often eat meat, but I'm not set on it and fully realise energy/water and supply chain implications of bringing beef/whatever from Australia over here compared to vegetables.
To be fair I used to live on a hillfarm and we produced beef with water that fell from the sky so it doesn't all have to be so bad.
I also drink coffee and that uses a HUGE amount of water to produce a kilo of coffee.

Every one of us can and should do better, its a process and given the right guidance we can help out a bit.
 

TeeDee

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FMG.....

I'm just suggesting it as a possible change of ration if one is going camping for a few days and want a 'meaty' type meal.
 

British Red

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Those of us of a certain age may remember "sosmix". We used that 50 years ago. Dry powder. I think vegetable based. Reconstituted with water and fried it tasted almost, but not quite, entirely unlike sausages. But not bad for all that. I've just Googled & its still made!
 
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Erbswurst

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So far I understood him right, he likes it very much and doesn't care that it causes that you look after consumption of a larger amount of the stuff approximately like a monkey.

I think he might also live in Berlin and here most people look pretty weird anyway. Me too, by the way. Some people told me for example I would look like a duck.
 
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TLM

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Hmm... sounds like nothing quite like this is in the stores in UK Härkis. There is another one made from oat, very similar. They are made to like like meat but are not.
 

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I like Linda McCartney burgers as a close-ish meat alternative. Now we all know that meat production is relatively inefficient (multiple Kg of, usually soya, feed to produce 1Kg of meat) so why is veggie/vegan food more expensive? I was looking at vegan chorizo and it's ~3x the price of genuine meat chorizo. What gives?
 

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Those of us of a certain age may remember "sosmix". We used that 50 years ago. Dry powder. I think vegetable based. Reconstituted with water and fried it tasted almost, but not quite, entirely unlike sausages. But not bad for all that. I've just Googled & its still made!
I used to love the burnt crunchy bits as a kid.

I wouldn't eat meat burgers back then.... Didn't like the texture
 
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British Red

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I like Linda McCartney burgers as a close-ish meat alternative. Now we all know that meat production is relatively inefficient (multiple Kg of, usually soya, feed to produce 1Kg of meat) so why is veggie/vegan food more expensive? I was looking at vegan chorizo and it's ~3x the price of genuine meat chorizo. What gives?
Actually meat production is remarkably efficient when carried out in small, mixed, farming operations. An example is our (currently 80+) chickens living in an orchard where soil cultivation would destroy tree roots. Our home cured bacon comes from rare breed pigs raised in woodland where they do great work turning soil, eating acorns, mast etc. Monoculture vegetable production kills every living plant, insect & tree over hundreds of acres. If that's efficiency, I want no part of it.

Industrialised farming and food production requires intensive land use - animal or vegetable - and that's a huge threat because it fights nature at every turn.

Why is veggie or vegan food expensive? It isn't if you mean vegetables. If you mean ultra processed meat substitutes, the money goes on processing rather than the ingredients.
 

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Soya upsets my tummy.

Quorn is good; even my delicate stomached Father can eat that with no ill effects.

I would be dubious about anything else.
Soy creates oestrogen and reduces testosterone in men i stay away from it there's plenty studies to back this to
 

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