Gransfors Short Handled Gutter Adze

[Kepis]

Looking to get a small gutter adze for bowl carving, well my Dad is looking to get me one for Chrimbo, ive looked at the Gransfors, as you do , just wondering on the best place to send him to get one for the least amount of money?.

Of course the other question is, what alternatives are there to the Gransfors?, as above it will be used for bowls more than anything and probably the odd Kuksa now and again, but im led to believe the angle of the blade required is different for bowls and Kuksa's?.

Thanks for your advice peeps.

 

[Hugo]

How about looking here at £129.00 http://www.wealddown.co.uk/Gransfor-Bruks-Axes/Curved-Adze-Short-Handle-478

 

[Kepis]

Yep, looked at them, unfortunately they dont have any bummer

 

[mrcharly]

There is an american chap makes some from old hammer heads. I've never handled one, but they tick all the boxes for shape and size.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SMALL-PREMIUM-QUALITY-BOWL-ADZE-JAKRUSS-/130592624020?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e67ed4d94#ht_500wt_1070

While I'm enjoying using my Mueller adze, there is no doubt it is far too big for most use - too heavy for one-handed use by this feeble being.

 

[Tiley]

You could always try Ben Orford - I think he makes one. Don't know about price but all the numerous bits and pieces I've had from him have been truly excellent AND he's a really nice bloke to deal with. I think you'll find him at www.benorford.com or something like that.

 

[Kepis]

You could always try Ben Orford - I think he makes one. Don't know about price but all the numerous bits and pieces I've had from him have been truly excellent AND he's a really nice bloke to deal with. I think you'll find him at www.benorford.com or something like that.

Think the ones Ben does are reforged Shipwrights adzes for chairmaking, probably a bit big for my needs, ive loads of Bens carving tools and love em to bits.

Thanks for the info though.

 

[Kepis]

There is an american chap makes some from old hammer heads. I've never handled one, but they tick all the boxes for shape and size.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SMALL-PREMIUM-QUALITY-BOWL-ADZE-JAKRUSS-/130592624020?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&

hash=item1e67ed4d94#ht_500wt_1070

While I'm enjoying using my Mueller adze, there is no doubt it is far too big for most use - too heavy for one-handed use by this feeble being.

thanks for the info

 

[Kepis]

Ive just looked at the Hans Karlsson range of Adzes, can someone like Robin offer some advice on which one would be best suited to Bowl and Kuksa carving ie the 600g or the 700g

Hans Karlsson Small Adze http://www.woodlandcraftsupplies.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_12&products_id=82

 

[Rod Paradise]

Some else posted a link on another thread to these people:

http://www.tfsrcymru.org.uk/fair-trade-2/products#ecwid:category=411048&mode=category&offset=0&sort=normal

Prices look not bad.

Sorry to the original poster of the link I read your post & followed the link this morning & can't remember where I saw it now.....

 

[bb07]

Here's a couple http://countryworkshops.org/Adzes.html

http://www.traditionalwoodworker.co...er-Classic-by-Mueller/productinfo/367-207135/

 

[mrcairney]

Duncan makes them have you asked him?

 

[Kepis]

Duncan makes them have you asked him?

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i had that very one on trial from Duncan last year

 

[Baggy]

Ive just looked at the Hans Karlsson range of Adzes, can someone like Robin offer some advice on which one would be best suited to Bowl and Kuksa carving ie the 600g or the 700g

Hans Karlsson Small Adze http://www.woodlandcraftsupplies.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_12&products_id=82

My wife brought me the 700g and it is a wonderful tool, made this with it

 

[kodiakjoe]

Maurice Pyle at the Woodsmith's store has them
http://www.woodsmithstore.co.uk/shop/Products/Tools/Adzes/

I've had all my greenwood tools through him and have done a couple of courses with him up at the Beamish museum. Nice bloke and great to deal with. No affiliation, just a satisfied customer etc etc...

 

[mrcairney]

i had that very one on trial from Duncan last year

How was it? I'm thinking of asking him for one.

 

[Ian S]

Svante Djarv and Hans Karlsson make good adzes. I have a 600g Hans Karlsson and I'm delighted with it.

Any of the short adzes would be fine for bowls and kuksas.

I went for the 600g Karlsson because it has a slightly narrower cut, and the cut is semi circular. The 700g Karlsson has a flattened section in the middle of the cut, so possibly better for chair making.

Cheers

 

[Hugo]

This link is interesting as there is FREE international shipping. Make your own handle and it could be yours for $60/80. http://www.northbayforge.com/adz.htm#maintarget

 

[Hugo]

And another one, Swiss made. http://www.rutlands.co.uk/hand-tools/carving-tools/carvers-adze/HOHLK/small-curved-adze

 

[robin wood]

I have tried most of the adzes linked so far and the Karlsson is a clear winner for me. One my first bowl course we had Svante Djarve, Gransfors and both Karlssons side by side. Shame I didn't take pics at the time. The Djarve would work well for big spoons but is rather short in the head to get in the bottom of a decent bowl or kuksa also quite lightweight for doing any sort of serious hollowing of a bowl. The Gransfors is sort of OK but the curve and action is not as sweet as the Karlsson and it's more expensive. Of the Karlssons as Ian says the profile of the smaller one is a section of a circle where the larger one is wider with a flat centre. You would not notice the weight difference but the wider one is better for big open form bowls and the smaller for kuksas and ladles. Most folk who try both buy the smaller one. I tried an early one of Duncan's which was heading in the right direction and will be good value for a light adze when he has them perfected, have not had a recent one they may be good by now. The only ones I have seen of Ben's were forged from hammer heads and suffered the same issues as the Djarve.

 

[Dave Budd]

funnily enough I made a small adze based on the rounded Karlson one (I made some drawings from one of Robin's). I need to get it out on a pass around (amongst those who .regularly use other adzes preferably) but it seems pretty good Difficult to say what the final price will be until I've made a few and got the technique down, but likely to be about between £100 and £130 I reckon.

I also make a lightweight adze a bit like duncans but the blade has an open socket that doevtails onto a handle. The advantage with the socket is that it can have a stick shoved into it and it becomes a gouge instead