Full ECWS Sleep System - 2nd Grade for £35

[Shewie]

Spotted these on ebay, might be worth a punt ..

Complete 4 piece genuine US ECWS sleep system, including goretex bivvy

£35 delivered

2nd Grade - They mention small tears that can be easily repaired so might be a good investment if you can handle a needle and thread. It doesn't say whether it's Tennier brand but they do claim it's genuine stuff.

Linky

no connection etc etc

 

[dave53]

any links please shewie regards dave

 

[Shewie]

Try that bit which says Linky Dave

 

[Shewie]

Looking at their other items for sale they have plenty of Tennier stuff so I guess it's good

 

[ozzy1977]

That is a bargain

 

[Stamp]

Does anyone have one? They look good value for money but these things can be a bit hit and miss.

 

[Shewie]

I've got the bivvy bag but never tried the sleeping bags

Mine is Tennier brand and it's definitely what you'd call squaddie proof, built like a tank.

 

[ozzy1977]

I have one, totally bomb proof it is too, by using the 3 bags in different combos you can get a good nights sleep in any temp down to something daft like -50*f. But when all 3 bags are together in the 1 stuff sack it is a big lump. I paid £70 for mine, it was issued but you would hardly know it and I don't regret it at all

 

[wingstoo]

it says in the info good for -30f which is minus one point one centigrade... that's a lot of bag for just -1.1c

 

[welchyd1]

it says in the info good for -30f which is minus one point one centigrade... that's a lot of bag for just -1.1c

I thought -30f was -34c?

 

[Shewie]

I thought -30f was -34c?

Yup

I think wingstoo has his pluses and minuses mixed up

 

[wingstoo]

Quite possibly...

30f is -1.1

-30 is -34.44444444444

Doh

 

[Andy BB]

A new or lightly-used one is a brilliant piece of kit - and I agree about the bivvy bag. But with seconds, you just don't know what you're going to end up with. If a bit of kit (and this bit of kit is - as said earlier - pretty bullet-proof) has been so hammered that it needs repairs, the chances are that its been hammered and repeatedly washed, which doesn't do much for the insulation properties of most sleeping bags.

At £35, it not much of a gamble, and you'll probably get value for money, but don't expect it to be anywhere as warm as a new one!

 

[presterjohn]

I'm tempted but as ANdy says to get one of these set ups down to grade 2 level you would have to badly abuse it.

 

[santaman2000]

A new or lightly-used one is a brilliant piece of kit - and I agree about the bivvy bag. But with seconds, you just don't know what you're going to end up with. If a bit of kit (and this bit of kit is - as said earlier - pretty bullet-proof) has been so hammered that it needs repairs, the chances are that its been hammered and repeatedly washed, which doesn't do much for the insulation properties of most sleeping bags.

At £35, it not much of a gamble, and you'll probably get value for money, but don't expect it to be anywhere as warm as a new one!

Except that "seconds" doesn't mean second-hand (used) It means that there were factory defects (usually stitching) that caused it to be rejected by the inspectors. They're usually new and unused; often with the manufacturer's labels removed.

However the link does seem to indicate something other than true "seconds."

 

[presterjohn]

Except that "seconds" doesn't mean second-hand (used) It means that there were factory defects (usually stitching) that caused it to be rejected by the inspectors. They're usually new and unused; often with the manufacturer's labels removed.

However the link does seem to indicate something other than true "seconds."

Are you sure? I am reading it as a grade two military surplus item. Factory seconds is a completely different kettle of fish and nothing in the advert indicates to me that that is what they mean.

 

[santaman2000]

Are you sure? I am reading it as a grade two military surplus item. Factory seconds is a completely different kettle of fish and nothing in the advert indicates to me that that is what they mean.

I tend to agree with you after looking at the ad. I was thinking factor seconds due to the OP title.

 

[Dave-the-rave]

I once bought a grade 1 listed British Army bag and froze in it a 0 degrees .
It looked in great nick but must have been laundered to death. They won't all be like that but....

Another way to look at it though.... You'll get a good bivvy bag for £35 which aint bad really.
I believe these US bivvy bags are even more robust than the British issue.
If the sleeping bags are good too then you're on a winner, even if only one is good.

 

[dave53]

sorry shewie i be blind old tw@t regards dave

 

[Shewie]

Except that "seconds" doesn't mean second-hand (used) It means that there were factory defects (usually stitching) that caused it to be rejected by the inspectors. They're usually new and unused; often with the manufacturer's labels removed.

However the link does seem to indicate something other than true "seconds."

Are you sure? I am reading it as a grade two military surplus item. Factory seconds is a completely different kettle of fish and nothing in the advert indicates to me that that is what they mean.

Yeah you're right chaps, that's my bad

It was late and I was tired, what I should have wrote was 2nd grade rather than 2nds, I'll update the OP