Look post what ever you fancy. I'm just going to ask a moderator to move this thread to the humor section and I will re-do the review. Please be so kind as to not post your waffle there - I am leaving you this thread to do that which I consider very considerate.
Usmc filbe pack system (inc camelbak ambush)
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Actually I was only trying to be considerate by correcting untrue statements. I've posted my references, including actual USMC training films and data as well as personal experience with the older pack systems (ALICE and CFP90) If you believe your's is more accurate please share your sources and your personal experience using/humping any issued gear.
I do apologize for interupting your review. Your experience with the pack you have is either positive or negative. You seem quite happy with it regardless of whether it is genuine issue or not and I certainly cain't dispute that.
Regarding whether it is or not actual issue, as I said I've already conceded that you are apparently correct in there being a new generation of the ILBE family called the FILBE and that Eagle Industries appears to be one of the manufacturers (check post #5)
My only remaining sources of doubt is the lack of the NSN on the actual label you posted. However it does appear on the labels in the photos on the e-bay site you linked. The second (and last) source of doubt is that this family of packs is in very short supply among active duty troops and to my knowledge, the genuine ones haven't been declared surplus as yet. Yes there are used ones of various generations available but those are the ones departing Marines sold after leaving surplus (yes that's legal here)
Of course it may really have the NSNs on the various packs when you recieve it and of course it may have actually found it's way into the surplus system.
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Actually, the small pack IS the "assault" pack. The pouches you're referring to are the "sustainment" pouches.
I Can't believe I am still wasting my time with this but again you are embarrasing yourself and proving your ignorance. Here is a photo of the back pack with the assault pouch.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USMC-MARI...158?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2efbdc4e
I wasn't talking about sustinance pouches. I know what I was talking about, this is evident by the fact that I have written an ACCURATE review of the component parts of the FILBE which.
Please do your research before you question these things. I understand that as it is new kit there might not be a lot of information about it, and in this case maybe don't argue if you don't know.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USMC-MARI...158?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2efbdc4e
I wasn't talking about sustinance pouches. I know what I was talking about, this is evident by the fact that I have written an ACCURATE review of the component parts of the FILBE which.
Please do your research before you question these things. I understand that as it is new kit there might not be a lot of information about it, and in this case maybe don't argue if you don't know.
Research? Please refer to the official training video in post #17. I believe the Marines know the true nomenclature. Of course there's an easy way to find out for sure. You can always enlist instead of playing airsoft.
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what are you talking about? You quoted me talking about putting the assault pouch on the small pack... Then you mentioned a sustenance pouch... Why?
I can only imagine you are the type of guy who has to have the last word so I'll let you have it and I'll post somewhere else.
I can only imagine you are the type of guy who has to have the last word so I'll let you have it and I'll post somewhere else.
Then perhaps I misread your comment:
"....Small Pack
The small pack clips onto the top of the big pack.....
......This on the other hand is about 35 litres and looks like a reasonably normal pack......
.....It too is covered in MOLLE but aside from sticking the "assault" pouch onto it I haven't bothered with any other pouches....."
That certainly sounds to me as if you're calling the sustainment pouches "assault pouches." And the assault pack a "small pack."
What a nice looking pack, do you have the weight of the main pack, without all the extras attatched?
I not to hand but I am re writing this and have all the tech specs on other computer. Will prob get that done over he next few days. Have just got another of thse (man pack only) should anyone want one.
I'm very. Interested in this pack system so have been hunting info on it. Found another review here from our cousins down under;
http://bushcraftoz.com/forums/showthread.php?4106-I-Gave-In!!-Yes-I-m-a-Kit-Junky-Shut-Up
http://bushcraftoz.com/forums/showthread.php?4106-I-Gave-In!!-Yes-I-m-a-Kit-Junky-Shut-Up
Main FILBE total pack weight with everything that's included is 15-16 lb, only pak 4 lb 500d cordura.
So large ALICE 4600d 2.8lb. total pack weight with everything that's included 6.84lb vs 16lb FILBE. ???
Price $20 vs $400
It looks like a step back.
So large ALICE 4600d 2.8lb. total pack weight with everything that's included 6.84lb vs 16lb FILBE. ???
Price $20 vs $400
It looks like a step back.
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Dude, enough.
I just bought my FILBE, yes with the F, not a typo. Which is the successor to the ILBE, the arcteryx designed one. The USMC pack system referenced in this video here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FemRN3y8Wv4 which you will see is the FILBE.
A simple google image search for 'filbe'.
https://www.google.com/search?q=fil...GuWXiQLukIGoDw&ved=0CDgQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=1138
Man up, admit you're wrong and move on.
Here is my own picture of the system that I just acquired from ebay.
To make a correction to the above poster.
The camelbak, is the mil-spec antidote system. 3.0L. Coyote Brown is the one spec'ed with the pack.
Thanks for clarification 
Are you enjoying the pack? I've used mine loads and am surprised I can carry almost 30 kilos (inc pack weight) pretty comfortably.
Are you enjoying the pack? I've used mine loads and am surprised I can carry almost 30 kilos (inc pack weight) pretty comfortably.
They do seem to be showing up now. But that said the one in the OP didn't have the NSN so I still have serious doubts it's genuine. Not going to be bothered to look up the specs on the hydration bladder again.
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