French government expected to issue all citizens with survival manual

[demographic]

Although there seems to be a weird "Everyone else but us won't manage" narrative going on here I reckon yer maybe flattering yourselves a tad.
Few years ago when Carlisle had bad flooding, power cuts for a few days and was mostly cut off by road also people all just got on with things.
There was a good amount of community spirit with people helping neighbours out, they even drove with greater consideration to others as all the traffic lights were out.

I'm not convinced that the denizens of sunny Carlisle are particularly unusual or especially resourceful, its just that people get on with stuff when the need arises.

 

[slowworm]

I think most people here will have a reasonable understanding of their neighbourhood to know what might happen.

To contrast to your tale, when we had a storm and lengthy powercut a few years back a family rocked up at their holiday home. One of their trees had fallen across the road blocking it so, realising they wouldn't be able to do much, I went down to ask if they wanted me to clear it for them. I couldn't get hold of them and found out from a neighbour they had gone back home as their was no internet. They just left the tree and didn't even report it to the council.

That doesn't mean I wouldn't help people in future (I frequently do) but I'm more likely to help some more than others.

 

[Glow_worm]

Although there seems to be a weird "Everyone else but us won't manage" narrative going on here I reckon yer maybe flattering yourselves a tad.

On a similar theme, how many armchair (or perhaps 'internet') preppers wouldn't cope with reality? At a time when medical assistance is out or limited, firing up the kelly kettle when inexperienced and burning themselves badly when pouring for want of a £4 pair of leather welding gauntlets? Or day two of a supply crisis discovering how loose/constipated their stockpile of long life food makes them? Being prepared isn't as simple as buying stuff, it's being practiced at being prepared in all weathers and seasons.

 

[Tengu]

I seem to recollect over Covid society collapsed due to too much leisure time.

And lack of hairdressers

 

[Woody girl]

I seem to recollect over Covid society collapsed due to too much leisure time.

And lack of hairdressers

Ha ha, lack of hairdressers, I've cut my own hair for a long time. I learned a few tricks from a hairdresser friend.
I havnt been to a hairdresser in over ten years, untill last Friday, when I decided my attempts at home hairdressing needed someone with more skill than me to sort out the ends and fringe better than myself. Plus i felt lazy Pure vanity exersize, where less than 15 mins in the chair for a dry trim cost me £25!
I must admit, I look much tidier, but being a natural woman, where make up, handbags and shoes, (other than trainers or boots, and walking sandals, are not on my radar.)
I'm sure, for many, looking neat and tidy are prerequisite for their jobs, but since the late 80s I've worked outside in some way or another, so having nails, hair, and make up, are not on my radar.
I look back to my 20s where I'd rush to a salon if I broke a nail, and wouldn't be seen outside without my hair perfect and make up on, and I wonder why? It cost so much money and I was in constant stress about how I looked to others. Now I couldn't care less. As long as I'm clean and my clothes are clean, appropriate and tidy, It is not something I'd worry about in a **** or any other situation. Which reminds me, I need to patch a pair of jeans. Maybe some sashiko sewing to make the patch a feature rather than be embarrassed that I'm wearing patched jeans.
The money I've saved over the years must be at least a luxury holidays worth.

 

[RonW]

Although there seems to be a weird "Everyone else but us won't manage" narrative going on here I reckon yer maybe flattering yourselves a tad.
Few years ago when Carlisle had bad flooding, power cuts for a few days and was mostly cut off by road also people all just got on with things.
There was a good amount of community spirit with people helping neighbours out, they even drove with greater consideration to others as all the traffic lights were out.

I'm not convinced that the denizens of sunny Carlisle are particularly unusual or especially resourceful, its just that people get on with stuff when the need arises.

It is all about the mindset. Some have it, some don't.
Cooperation will happen to some extent, pillaging or simply giving up will to. I believe the countryside has a major advantage community-wise over the cities.
Given the current state of mind of society at large I fear most will end up in the less well off categories. People are spoiled, entitled, lazy and simply unskilled or unequiped. Not to mention the immense amount of addictions (meds, drugs and indeed cellphones) and subsequent withdrawels kicking in. Oh.... I forgot the medical cases of drug use, both mental and physical.

I was once told that the 72-hr period was a time limit. If government help were to arrive, it would have to be within that timeframe, otherwise one could consider societal order to have failed or collapsed. It also allowed certain keyfigures to bail out and get away.
I find it quite telling that more and more governments strongly advise people to prepare for calamities, whereas on the other hand social unrest is quickly on the rise. I believe they know that the current status quo will be undone soon.

 

[demographic]

I seem to recollect over Covid society collapsed due to too much leisure time.

And lack of hairdressers

Collapse of society? Naaah, not even close.
From my point of view the largest issues were caused by the conflicting governmental messaging, for the most part the population could see the reasons for lockdowns and coped quite well. It seemed that the government was the one panicking.
Again I'm not quite convinced the narrative on here quite matches the reality of what I saw on a day to day basis.

Either that or maybe sunny Carlisles residents are just better at coping than the rest of the country.
Somehow I doubt that, its a fairly normal place really.

 

[Tengu]

Ha ha, lack of hairdressers, I've cut my own hair for a long time. I learned a few tricks from a hairdresser friend.
I havnt been to a hairdresser in over ten years, untill last Friday, when I decided my attempts at home hairdressing needed someone with more skill than me to sort out the ends and fringe better than myself. Plus i felt lazy Pure vanity exersize, where less than 15 mins in the chair for a dry trim cost me £25!
I must admit, I look much tidier, but being a natural woman, where make up, handbags and shoes, (other than trainers or boots, and walking sandals, are not on my radar.)
I'm sure, for many, looking neat and tidy are prerequisite for their jobs, but since the late 80s I've worked outside in some way or another, so having nails, hair, and make up, are not on my radar.
I look back to my 20s where I'd rush to a salon if I broke a nail, and wouldn't be seen outside without my hair perfect and make up on, and I wonder why? It cost so much money and I was in constant stress about how I looked to others. Now I couldn't care less. As long as I'm clean and my clothes are clean, appropriate and tidy, It is not something I'd worry about in a **** or any other situation. Which reminds me, I need to patch a pair of jeans. Maybe some sashiko sewing to make the patch a feature rather than be embarrassed that I'm wearing patched jeans.
The money I've saved over the years must be at least a luxury holidays worth.

Annie, you got it wrong.

Barbers will give you a trim for half the price of a Hairdressers.

(I was behind the door when Feminine was handed out, and dont buy into it anyway. I have no desire to be attractive to other women...)

 

[Woody girl]

Annie, you got it wrong.

Barbers will give you a trim for half the price of a Hairdressers.

(I was behind the door when Feminine was handed out, and dont buy into it anyway. I have no desire to be attractive to other women...)

No barbers round here, nearest is 20 miles away! We do however have 3 hairdressers, and you are right, gents get longer in the chair for half the price. The last bastion of sexism.
It was a treat to myself, I'm going for a massage later this week too. A bit of self love, and self care, instead of worrying about everyone else, for a change.
Also a reward for all the hard work decluttering I've managed to do.

 

[Tengu]

Oh, thats a shame. What do men do in your community?

(Dont tell me, their wives trim them).

(Or they attend the hairdressers...How much does the Hairdresser earns compared to the Barber?)

I knew a woman once with three daughters. She went on a hairdressing course in order to save money.

But her daughters didnt want their hair cut by mummy; they wanted to go to the salon.

 

[Pattree]

Before Covid I used to go to a hairdresser rather than a barber. I probably left longer time between cuts than most blokes.
I have now saved that expense. My hair grew during the pandemic, I learned to manage it (and my lathe) and it hasn’t been cut since.

But yes - it was a pleasant experience in the salon and I was by no means the only male customer. There was a male hairdresser as well as the women. I didn’t worry about which.

This discussion about hair isn’t that far from the OP.

Survival isn’t all about food and shelter. I have done work for the UNHCR, Transport Operation for Refugees and the Relief and Rehabilitation Commission of Ethiopia.
Having experienced the aftermath of a number of disasters we knew that refugees had turned a corner in their recovery when the women began to dress each other’s hair. Hairdressers may not be part of disaster preparedness but they need to be available in the aftermath.

Physical survival is only part of the preparedness. Disasters break people. The person who survives is as important as how they do it.

 

[Woody girl]

Oh, thats a shame. What do men do in your community?

(Dont tell me, their wives trim them).

(Or they attend the hairdressers...How much does the Hairdresser earns compared to the Barber?)

I knew a woman once with three daughters. She went on a hairdressing course in order to save money.

But her daughters didnt want their hair cut by mummy; they wanted to go to the salon.

I've absolutely no idea! I guess they go to the local salons, or drive the 20 miles into town.

Anyway, back to prepping.
I don't think for me at any rate, any government leaflet has anything to say to me that would be new and unknown. But I think it's a good idea for those who are thinking about it, but no idea where to start.
There are many good yt videos about it. Anna's food and lifestyle, is a great one to recommend to those who may not be totaly on board as it covers many different topics in a homestyle matter of fact way, without the american slant, and being a woman, rather than a rambo man, appeals to many who would be put off by the weapons, and bug out slant. I find her very useful to get me thinking about things and putting into practice some of her ideas.

 

[Woody girl]

Richard innman has just put out a video on yt that you should all look at. I think that he speaks a lot of sense and we should be thinking about how we would cope in the situation he talks about, rather than worrying about Russian aggression. Its far more likely.

 

[ONE]

Je ne sais quoi 3 jours d'eau mais plusiers jours du nourriture bein sur dans ma cuisine. En France je pense plus du trois jours du vin hein?

Mais qui, en France, ne dispose pas de quelques jours de réserve de vin ?