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I find the Alpkit 900 more versatile and if you aren't wedded to titanium, what about stainless and a Solo pot, GSI Glacier mug, or one of these Snow Peak No.1 Kettles?
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If you're just boiling water, titanium is fine. My mug is an Alpkit 400 ti, and I make my tea in it. It's great.Tommyd345 said:Iv never used titanium before, I just liked the size
But titanium burns food. It's not a great conductor of heat, so it forms hot spots where the flame meets the pot, and food will burn at those spots. I burned porridge, rice and mashed potatoes before I went back to aluminium. For food I use a Gelert Phoenix mini cookset pot.
There are various options depending on your needs and wallet.
For a simple brew up then what about a metal Crusader mug and bottle?
https://www.raymears.com/Bushcraft_Product/86-BCB-NATO-Crusader-Cup/
For cooking then a MSR 775ml stainless pot is a good choice. The fact it clips shut is a good point. It's perfect for one person, maybe two, and you can keep all your brew kit and mess kit inside it to make use of the space:
http://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/msr-stowaway-pot-775ml-d3322019
What I also like about the MSR is that you can use a bit of chain between the two clips and then suspend it over a fire if you want. Here's mine in use:
Or maybe a Crusader mess kit which is a similar concept to the MSR (or vice versa) but the Crusader mess kit doesn't shut as well but has the advantage that you can use the lid as a frying pan. As you can see, though, they're hard to get hold of now. To be honest, the MSR does the job better for just a couple of extra quid, unless using the lid as a frying pan is important.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BCB-CN008-Crusader-Stainless-Steel/dp/B000TGOS0S
I team my MSR pot up with a titanium mug that slips beneath a nalgene bottle (so similar in set up to the Crusader mug/bottle but the titanium mug and nalgene bottle weigh the same as the crusader bottle on its own! Not including water, obviously). Used in conjunction with the MSR pot you can get your brew done and whilst that cools enough to drink you can cook your stew/noodles/whatever in the MSR. This is the one I have:
http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/pots-pans-and-mugs/SC121.html
Here's what I mean about compactness - teamed up with a trangia and pocket stove. I'm sure it could be made lighter and smaller but this suits me for versatility, compactness and ease of use. This is my brew kit:
For a simple brew up then what about a metal Crusader mug and bottle?
https://www.raymears.com/Bushcraft_Product/86-BCB-NATO-Crusader-Cup/
For cooking then a MSR 775ml stainless pot is a good choice. The fact it clips shut is a good point. It's perfect for one person, maybe two, and you can keep all your brew kit and mess kit inside it to make use of the space:
http://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/msr-stowaway-pot-775ml-d3322019
What I also like about the MSR is that you can use a bit of chain between the two clips and then suspend it over a fire if you want. Here's mine in use:
Or maybe a Crusader mess kit which is a similar concept to the MSR (or vice versa) but the Crusader mess kit doesn't shut as well but has the advantage that you can use the lid as a frying pan. As you can see, though, they're hard to get hold of now. To be honest, the MSR does the job better for just a couple of extra quid, unless using the lid as a frying pan is important.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BCB-CN008-Crusader-Stainless-Steel/dp/B000TGOS0S
I team my MSR pot up with a titanium mug that slips beneath a nalgene bottle (so similar in set up to the Crusader mug/bottle but the titanium mug and nalgene bottle weigh the same as the crusader bottle on its own! Not including water, obviously). Used in conjunction with the MSR pot you can get your brew done and whilst that cools enough to drink you can cook your stew/noodles/whatever in the MSR. This is the one I have:
http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/pots-pans-and-mugs/SC121.html
Here's what I mean about compactness - teamed up with a trangia and pocket stove. I'm sure it could be made lighter and smaller but this suits me for versatility, compactness and ease of use. This is my brew kit:
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Aye Up,
Tommyd345 - Austrian surplus stainless steel mug with DIY lid made from a piece of ally plus a Gelert gas burner on a C100 canister with a plastic canister tripod and a cut-to-fit folding ally windscreen. Good for brews/mugshots etc. SS mug can be used in a wood fire.
The Austrian mug fits the '58 Brit surplus (or issued!) plastic water bottle.
For versatility - how about the good old Stainless (cost much) Swedish Army Trangia, or if open fire is not a requirement - the ally (cheaper) version.
Nohoval_Turrets - re burning food in Ti cookware - for just heating food up, have you tried using boil-in-the-bag-bags? I've been decanting all manor of pre-cooked food into the Lakeland bags (quite cheap - about £5 for 50!) and using them regularly in aluminium and stainless SATs and just recently in an AMG Ti pan with no probs (see my recent BRS wood stove review). That stove really whacks the heat out and I haven't managed to melt or burn a bag so far.
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=144139
Tommyd345 - Austrian surplus stainless steel mug with DIY lid made from a piece of ally plus a Gelert gas burner on a C100 canister with a plastic canister tripod and a cut-to-fit folding ally windscreen. Good for brews/mugshots etc. SS mug can be used in a wood fire.
The Austrian mug fits the '58 Brit surplus (or issued!) plastic water bottle.
For versatility - how about the good old Stainless (cost much) Swedish Army Trangia, or if open fire is not a requirement - the ally (cheaper) version.
Nohoval_Turrets - re burning food in Ti cookware - for just heating food up, have you tried using boil-in-the-bag-bags? I've been decanting all manor of pre-cooked food into the Lakeland bags (quite cheap - about £5 for 50!) and using them regularly in aluminium and stainless SATs and just recently in an AMG Ti pan with no probs (see my recent BRS wood stove review). That stove really whacks the heat out and I haven't managed to melt or burn a bag so far.
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=144139
Nohoval_Turrets - re burning food in Ti cookware - for just heating food up, have you tried using boil-in-the-bag-bags? I've been decanting all manor of pre-cooked food into the Lakeland bags (quite cheap - about £5 for 50!) and using them regularly in aluminium and stainless SATs and just recently in an AMG Ti pan with no probs (see my recent BRS wood stove review). That stove really whacks the heat out and I haven't managed to melt or burn a bag so far.
http://www.bushcraftuk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=144139
Not sure why this thread got resurrected after nearly a year, but oh well...
Yes, I've tried the boil in the bag thing, but it doesn't work terribly well with my usual style of cooking. In any event, with an ali pot I can cook whichever way I choose. I like ti for everything else, I just think for cooking pots they have too many problems.
I use either an aluminium or stainless billy for cooking, and a US or tatonka mug for a brew. Trying to "cook" anything other than a boil in the bag is too much hassle using just a mug. I prefer closer to 1.5-2L for a cooking pot.
I find the mid-size billy from this set to be ideal, and very light;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nesting-B...943887?hash=item1c62a3274f:g:mzgAAOSwq7JUFCdo
I also really like my tatonka 1.6l;
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tatonka-Stainless-Steel-Kettle/dp/B000G4XM32?th=1&psc=1
Tonyuk
I find the mid-size billy from this set to be ideal, and very light;
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nesting-B...943887?hash=item1c62a3274f:g:mzgAAOSwq7JUFCdo
I also really like my tatonka 1.6l;
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tatonka-Stainless-Steel-Kettle/dp/B000G4XM32?th=1&psc=1
Tonyuk
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