fibre liners ?

Paullyfuzz

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Sep 28, 2007
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Hi all,

Im gonna have a go at making my first knife and would like to add a fibre lining to the handles.
Can someone tell me what materials are good for this purpose ?

Cheers,

Paul
 

davep90

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vulcanised fibre is the coloured stuff you see.
you can also use brass plate or aluminium etc. which if you put plenty holes in will reduce the weight and help the epoxy take a good grip..
 

scanker

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Aug 15, 2005
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'tis true. I'm fairly sure I've read of people using leather and even the black plastic from dvd cases before too - best check on BB.
 

Jedadiah

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Jan 29, 2007
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Just to clarify, the vulcanised fibre liners are put in place to protect the tang from water and moisture. The idea is; if your fitting wooden scales, they will allow water to seep through them and attack the metal underneath. Because the scales are fitted, the corrosion will continue unchecked until it simply rot's through or becomes unusable. If you fit fibre liners and do NOT drill holes through them, it will only leave the edge of the tang exposed. This you can see and address any corrosion. To give the epoxy something to grip onto, them please start to drill the liner but do not go through, just leave like a counter-sunk indentation or a few, on the surface. If you drill through it, you'll compromise the integrity of the liner.

Yes, some people take advantage of the fact that they can look nice and this is a bonus, but please, if you go to the trouble of making or re-handling a knife, particularly in O-1 or a steel that is prone to corrosion, remember that there is about half of the knife that you cannot see, let alone treat for corrosion. Anyway, the weight you would save if you did this would be next to nothing.

If you used any dissimilar metals remember that these can accelerate corrosion and really should only be used on shown knives or knives that will probably not be used in the field. Remember, stainless is only stain resistant so corrosion is still a threat.

Hope this helps:)
 

John Fenna

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Oct 7, 2006
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Surely if you use a good layer of waterproof glue, be it natural or epoxy resin, then there is an impermiable layer between wood and metal anyway? This would obviate the need for a liner except for cosmetic reasons.
How many "traditional" construction knives use any kind of liner?
Are liners essential or modern cosmetics?
 

Dougster

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Oct 13, 2005
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It's important when using Oak and steel, and it does add to the aesthetics imo. Don't use stainless bolts with oak handles!

I have some blue I am not going to use that you can have if you pm me, I have other colours too if that doesn't tickle your fancy.

Richard
 

Shinken

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dont need your coat, if you get airbubbles in the glue what you said can ring true (in theory)

and glue can crack
 

Dougster

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It is important to remember that heat from too quickly sanding down the bolts can weaken the epoxy too.

When I have split handles in the past boiling the glue seems to be the best way of releasing it.

It's really easy to miss bits and have areas on the inside of the handle which have no epoxy between them and the metal. The corrosion will then loosen the handle.
 

Shinken

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grinding the bolts with power tools can generate a lot of heat. when i first started making i nearlly set some wood alight doing just that. Live and learn i guess
 

Black Sheep

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I usually glue the liner to the handle and bolt the hole thing to the tang then trim it to shape.

I then very carefully cut/saw the bolt off as close too the handle as possible with a small hacksaw and finish them with a fine file - saves on over heating them.

Rich
 

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