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Also quite impressed, would also work quite well as a flare. a Tenner for three is fair. With my firelighting skills I wonder if they,d give me a discount for bulk buy!
Shelf life is going to be the issue. Needs to be water/leak proof storage, but not too hard to unwrap.

If my hands get cold now I lose all feeling and circulation, Doc says its Reynards. I could just about get a stick into the ring to pull it but serious wrapping would be a problem even using teeth (while I still have them...)

In the meantime I think I'll make some of those DIY never fail matches with a balloon around them.
Whats your DIY never fail match?
 
Leigh from The Bug Out Shop had them on his channel a while back. Presume they were samples but don't know if he got any in to sell.

Hasn't put them on his webstore atleast, so might have to buy in person. I suspect there maybe hassle and legalities involved.



Edit: link was to wrong video.
 
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As I said, it's discounted to £19 if you order 10 or so. So group buy would work but we couldn't then distribute it without incurring delivery charges or fuel charges :)

Tsk!!! Passive aggressive much?!

May as well have just send me an email with ' As per my last message ' in the header :)

I was thinking TeeDee’s Moot suggestion.

Yes - thank you - I was.


Strange. Without the free delivery code the delivery price was £19 or so, then when I added the code it didn't change!

This time I tried it keeps the £19.99 but doesn't add it to the total so the delivery is free - weird :)


Oh yes Broch.... VERY Strange!!! :)




( I am joking Broch !! Banter!! )
 
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Hi @Tony - just want to check that this wouldn’t cause any issues for you on the forum as these matches are in essence a flare/pyrotechnic.

Would it be allowed for me to put up the option of a group buy for distribution at the Winter Moot, to save the £35 delivery charge per person? If you’d prefer not, I fully understand.


Withdrawn for reasons of not wanting to make MI5 think I'm planning some kind of bushcraft militia event.
 
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Must be very specialist delivery beyond the usual stuff that requires an ADR (road Dangerous Goods) courier...... bearing in mind that stuff like isopropyl alcohol and bioethanol also requires ADR courier, (although also may be carried as Limited Quantities) and its nothing like that price.

So yeah, probably coming under one of the explosives category so rather more rules on carriage than the common types of Dangerous Goods...... in which case I'd also be finding out a bit more before buying as the UK govt may be a tad more twitchy about them than USA.

GC
 
There is also the Pull Start Fire. Canterbury and a few others have demo'd it over the years. Also never seemed to appear on these shores.


And taken apart.


A little flare like device sandwiched in two halfs of wax/fuel block.
 
I think GreyCat's point is quite sensible, regarding a bulk order. So I am withdrawing my offer to do so, sorry.

That said, I have bought a couple for personal use and I can bring them to the Moot for anyone interested to have a look at and see used in person.

I'll probably also make a video review of them at some point, trying them out in various conditions in the name of Science and Survival (and being a big child).
 
Having bad circulation and being stick thin, the cold gets to me very quickly and it's clear these could very likely save life if things go really wrong, there is a genuine place for something like this rather than them just being an impressive toy/gadget/fad.

However, I'm content to wait to find out...

-If they are legal (I'd hope the importers have done their homework)

-If they remain legal once the content creators start to use them and abuse them

-If after a few years there are no stories of them self-detonating in car gloveboxes etc.

Happy to let others road test these and buy a few years down the line!
 
Having bad circulation and being stick thin, the cold gets to me very quickly and it's clear these could very likely save life if things go really wrong, there is a genuine place for something like this rather than them just being an impressive toy/gadget/fad.

However, I'm content to wait to find out...

-If they are legal (I'd hope the importers have done their homework)

-If they remain legal once the content creators start to use them and abuse them

-If after a few years there are no stories of them self-detonating in car gloveboxes etc.

Happy to let others road test these and buy a few years down the line!

Is there any reason they wouldn’t be legal? Hand flares and pyrotechnics have long been legal here. Ultimately these are not really any different.
 
Hopefully not, but our poison/explosives laws have tightened, and have the potential to tighten further, compared to many other countries. Nothing would surprise me really.
 
I can see where you are concerned, however. The instant knee jerk reaction to something like this being mi-used is to ban it, so if they became popular for miscreants they would get banned. My view is a bit like Hexy, get it while you can and then wait and see.
As Chris says, flares have been around for a while, and this is just another form of flare, so I'm more positive than not.
 
Distress flares aren’t just legal, they are mandatory on some British shipping.
They are available here.

(I wouldn’t want to start a fire with one and see the woods disappear in red smoke but the principle is the same.)
 
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My view is a bit like Hexy, get it while you can and then wait and see.
Sounds like a plan. On balance, while fireworks model rocketry and distress pyros are still sold, I can't imagne these specifically being legislated away. If they let customers pick them up, I'll get a few next time I'm passing their premises.
 

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