Confused by tree

Zodiak

Settler
Mar 6, 2006
664
8
Kent UK
Hands up, I am rubbish at identifying trees and have started going out at lunctime to the nearby woods with my book, however I have found one that really stumped me.

It has leaves just like a maple (5 fingers), twisted yellow and brown catkins, but underneath there are small nuts aboiut 8mm long that look like hazel nuts.

Any ideas please?
 

Silverback

Full Member
Sep 29, 2006
978
15
England
Well you have me stumped :confused: I have suggestions for two out of the three clues but not all three together :( . A pic is an absolute must for a proper ID
 

bambodoggy

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Nov 10, 2004
3,062
50
49
Surrey
www.stumpandgrind.co.uk
Might be a field Maple of some sort or even a London Plane but as the others have said, without a piccy it's very very hard to give accurate advice.

Cheers,

Bam. :D
 

falling rain

Native
Oct 17, 2003
1,737
29
Woodbury Devon
Check the bark. If it's flaky it could well be a London plane as others have said, If it is growing in the town/city it's very likely as London planes can tolerate high pollution and not be affected. That's why there are lots of them in London and they are called London plane. (They don't just throw these names together you know :confused: ) There's a good picture of a leaf from a plane here http://www.the-tree.org.uk/BritishTrees/plane.htm.
Another possibility is a wild service tree (chequers) but this is unlikely as they are one of our rarest trees. They are fussy growers and everything needs to be just right for them to grow. A lot of our Wild services were cut down in the middle ages because the wood was used to make cross-bow stocks.
or maybe these as suggestions, but the catkins and 'nuts' don't add up on all of these.
Norway maple http://www.the-tree.org.uk/A/British_Trees.htm
http://www.the-tree.org.uk/A/British_Trees.htm
http://www.the-tree.org.uk/A/British_Trees.htm
http://www.the-tree.org.uk/A/British_Trees.htm

A picture of the leaves, bark..............and the mystery 'nuts' will be your best bet though as has been mentioned by the other folks
 
T

Tricky

Guest
hmmm, how about pin oak ?, looks like it has the characteristics you have mentioned
 

Butchd

Forager
Feb 20, 2007
119
0
60
Surrey
That doesn't sound like a london plane. The fruit/seedcases look nothing like nuts, certainly not hazel, nor will they be in leaf yet. I've also never noticed catkins on them, though they must have something. When you say that you are going out at lunchtime, is it to a park? Just wondering if it's a non native for a start. Is the tree standing alone or in a hedge? Are the leaves and catkins on it at the moment or are the leaves and nuts actually on the ground?
 

Zodiak

Settler
Mar 6, 2006
664
8
Kent UK
OK time for a confession here, I have ben a pratt, but the clues were there. :eek:

The tree didn't have any leaves so I used what was under it, and looking again today I noticed that these Maple like leaves are the only ones around for some distance, including the bush hedge alongthe side of the field, which to all intents and purposes looks just like maple, and probably is :eek:

I an now 99% sure that the tree is a hazel (catkins and nuts) and the leaves actually blew over from the hedge :eek:

Talk about a dohh!! moment :eek:

But thanks for the comments so far :buttkick:
 

Justin Time

Native
Aug 19, 2003
1,064
2
South Wales
Zodiak said:
The tree didn't have any leaves so I used what was under it, and looking again today I noticed that these Maple like leaves are the only ones around for some distance, including the bush hedge alongthe side of the field, which to all intents and purposes looks just like maple, and probably is :eek:
:

Been there, done that etc etc
but now we need to know which kind of maple you've found!
 

Silverback

Full Member
Sep 29, 2006
978
15
England
Justin Time said:
Been there, done that etc etc
but now we need to know which kind of maple you've found!
Or how much Sycamore you have found ;)

I know we have had a mild winter...again :rolleyes: but those hazlenuts are worryingly early :confused:
 

falling rain

Native
Oct 17, 2003
1,737
29
Woodbury Devon
Zodiak said:
OK time for a confession here, I have ben a pratt, but the clues were there. :eek:

The tree didn't have any leaves so I used what was under it, and looking again today I noticed that these Maple like leaves are the only ones around for some distance, including the bush hedge alongthe side of the field, which to all intents and purposes looks just like maple, and probably is :eek:

I an now 99% sure that the tree is a hazel (catkins and nuts) and the leaves actually blew over from the hedge :eek:

Talk about a dohh!! moment :eek:

But thanks for the comments so far :buttkick:

There's always one Zodiak.......................and you're both of them :lmao:
 

Zodiak

Settler
Mar 6, 2006
664
8
Kent UK
OK so I managed to get back with my camera :)

these are the catkins

catkins.jpg


Here is the tree from the path

tree1.jpg


A close up of the bark

tree2.jpg


and a leaf on the ground underneath it.

leaf.jpg


So I reckon that is a Hazle tree with a maple/sycamore leaf that had blown in from somewhere. :confused:
 

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