Cheaper alternative to meths ?
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Bio ethanol is cheaper than meths I use it in my trangia stove and in my whitebox stove
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Or you could buy a water distiller , and make your own ethanol and methanol from out of date homebrew wine , ....but it is totally illegal
I found this when looking for some bio - ethanol - http://www.outdoormegastore.co.uk/fuel4-x2-eco-cook-kit.html has anybody got one , and if so does it work ?
cheers Andrew.
cheers Andrew.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/25-LITRES...700?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item33855ab244
something like this for transferring to smaller fuel containers
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GASOLINE-...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5401cac8cb
looked at this a while back, meths in small quantities of dead expensive, your alternatives are bio ethanol, b and q sell it for fires its about £3 a litre. but if your willing to buy 5 litres at a time. meths prices even out to about £3 a litre too, go outdoors sell it and most farm/horse riding stores.
La Hacienda Bio-Ethanol Fuel 2L is £5 for 2l at B&Q so £2.50 per litre, good price for light users but the methanol at £1.60 a litre is a better option if you use a lot (I use one litre a day minimum in a Heatpal).
unless you have a licensed chemist as your college tutor
Distillation for personal (non drinking) use isn't illegal.
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Like with Knife laws , the legality of it is vague at best some say you need a licence, But the cops will still nick you and leave it to others or the courts to make up their minds on your guilt
I know a lot of people making bio diesel got nicked for distilling,Aside from the Customs and excise implications, It was probably because of the risk of explosions , and its illegal to store more than 20liters of petrol at home ..so that probably applies too to 90% ethanol/methanol...but not vodka ....what a silly place we live in
I know a lot of people making bio diesel got nicked for distilling,Aside from the Customs and excise implications, It was probably because of the risk of explosions , and its illegal to store more than 20liters of petrol at home ..so that probably applies too to 90% ethanol/methanol...but not vodka ....what a silly place we live in
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like I said around £3 a litre for bio ethanol.
all depends how it burns too there's not much of a saving if it takes twice as long to cook anything.
how do bio e and ethanol compare to meths in the field?
As far as energy density is concerned, bio-ethanol, non-bio-ethanol and meths are all much the same.
As far as energy density is concerned, ethanol is much poorer than hydrocarbon fuels like paraffin, petrol and e.g. Coleman Fuel.
As far as energy density is concerned, methanol is even worse than ethanol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline#Comparison_with_other_fuels
As far as price is concerned, I buy burning alcohol in France where it's about E1.50 per litre which is still a rip-off if you think that the prices of road fuels include huge amounts of Fuel Duty...
As far as energy density is concerned, ethanol is much poorer than hydrocarbon fuels like paraffin, petrol and e.g. Coleman Fuel.
As far as energy density is concerned, methanol is even worse than ethanol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline#Comparison_with_other_fuels
As far as price is concerned, I buy burning alcohol in France where it's about E1.50 per litre which is still a rip-off if you think that the prices of road fuels include huge amounts of Fuel Duty...
It isnt illegal. As far as I know its perfectly legal since 2007 to make (For personal use) upto 2500 liter's of biofuel at home without paying any tax.
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Now that is very interesting, have you got a reference on that because that would be good thing to know? You are going to say Google is my friend aren't you?
Update from Mountainm: Not in the UK hey, oh well, thanks for checking. Shame, it could have been fun trying.
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isopropal (spelling) alcohol is what i use, but i dont pay for it, i manage to get it from work...
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