Charcoal sources - Cambs

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sparkplug

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Jan 24, 2008
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Being very new to all this bushcraft lark, I've started to appreciate the importance of 'proper' charcoal rather than the stuff I've been buying from the supermarkets all these years.

The big question is - where can I get my hands on it? I'm in Cambs and would obviously like to source it locally if possible, but I don't know where to start looking.

Can anyone help point me in a useful direction?

Thanks.
 

Toddy

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And if you check the supermarket stuffs carefully, you can find unadulterated hardwood, lumpwood charcoal there. I bought some recently that is absolutely excellent and it was under £3 a bag :D
I really don't see how they can make it for that price. :dunno:

Eric Methven posted a thread a while back on diy make your own charcoal.

Someone is sure to come up with local sources for you though.

cheersm,
Toddy
 

Eric_Methven

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I really don't see how they can make it for that price.

Generally by placing a massive order through a charcoal cooperative, then when it's all ready for shipment, chopping the price they are prepared to pay to the knuckle bone. Mostly the cooperative will sell at the lower price simply because storage costs so much. Some of these coop members have their living rooms crammed full of bags of charcoal in the few weeks before collection day and the big supermarkets know exactly what they are doing.

Also, some of the lumpwood charcoal comes from abroad and is made by little kids who get paid tuppence a day.

Eric (cynical, but I've seen it with my own eyes)
 

MartiniDave

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Sparkplug,

There is a charcoal burner who work on the cicular path around Grafham Water, but I don't know where he sells from or how to contact him.

Dave
 

sparkplug

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How much are you wanting and for what? It's pretty easy to make in small or large quantities.

Just for BBQ / smoking so not huge quantities. The problem with making it myself (apart from not knowing how :D ) is that I live in the middle of suburbia where lighting fires in your back garden attracts the local neighbourhood watch (not joking - it's happened twice now when I've done a BBQ on real wood)

Some of these coop members have their living rooms crammed full of bags of charcoal in the few weeks before collection day and the big supermarkets know exactly what they are doing.

Also, some of the lumpwood charcoal comes from abroad and is made by little kids who get paid tuppence a day.

Eric (cynical, but I've seen it with my own eyes)

Thanks Eric - that's exactly what I want to avoid. I'm looking for the chaps from the coops so I can pay them a fair price directly - or the individuals such as fishy1 who don't mind making up a bit extra and selling / swapping / trading it on

Sparkplug,

There is a charcoal burner who work on the cicular path around Grafham Water, but I don't know where he sells from or how to contact him.

Dave
I know Grafham although I haven't been for years. I'll go and see if I can find him. It's still a nice place even if he's not there :)

Any further suggestions still welcomed.
 

fishy1

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Poor you living in england, where I am if I wanted charcoal in a reasonable amount, I'd just go up to a local loch, fill an oil drum with hardwood driftwood and burn it a bit then block the oxygen off to it, perfectly legal.

For larger amounts, I'd do it the trench method I think although I haven't tried this as I don't need tonnes of it for the occasional furnace running that I do.
 

badgeringtim

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Sparkplug,
A couple of things for you, if its just for bbqs then there are uk producers which sell to garden centers. I know of one for B&Q, which is sett up by an organisation who specialise in getting small (but still significant amounts) producers in contact with the center (i also saw some in ASDA), i am told by someone that uses them that its very good. These are clearly marked and actually not that much more expensive - they usually light far better and burn very well (the conditions in the uk are some of the best in the world for growing timber to charcoal).
I read about what was said about co-operatives above but know that this isnt always the case, they system i know of is sett up with a regional agreement where they supply only their 'local' store. Brilliant for people who do a lot of wood managmnet and thinning, i have no idea why more wildlife trusts etc dont do it (much easier than transporting firewood).

Im actually in cambs and have done a burn earlier this year in the garden (only use a little oil drum method)- I find that if you do it earlier in the year when people dont have there washing out its fine although i have now run out of home made, and next year will be doing several in early spring.

As an aside (and im probably preaching to the converted here) as mentioned above imported charcoal often comes from slash and burn destroying good habitat and even salable wood, accidents are frequent and conditions not appealing. Not to mention methods are usually very wastefull.
If you look on a bag of briquetes you will find that a large amount is 'filler' or 'binder' this is often cement dust, not only does it mean that what your food is cooked on but it explains why we need firelighters. U dont for uk charcoal. (another gripe of mine, we wouldnt cook on noxiouse chemicals but we will put them on coals then put the food ontop of that...)

Hope that helps
 

om2ae

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Sep 2, 2006
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Hi Guys

The Graham burner is run by the Wildlife Trust (cambs team) they do burns quite often and sell the char-coal for £3 a bag, it all comes from the management around the water. The main office is in West Perry and you need to contact them there, they still have loads lift from the last burn. the office number is : 01480 811075 and ask to speak to Matt Hamilton or Gregg Belcher and they will sort you out.

hope this helps
 

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