It is not so bad here, as I live in a low populated area but it is just on my mind right now as my next door neighbour currently has four cats to control the mice and of course, you think they are not having an impact but having been able to watch them at length it is true that they kill EVERYTHING that moves; mice yes but also shrews, voles, dormice, snakes, birds, bats, frogs, newts, the list goes on and that's just for fun. I sometimes think our village has been completely cleared of all those forms of life. A quote from Mr. Packham himself: "Britain's cats are estimated to catch up to 275 million prey animals a year, including 55 million birds". Netting a few hedges, trees and cliffs pales in comparison.Banning would probably be extreme (even it were realistically possible) Heavy fines for people who let their cats wander loose might be realistic.
We have an almost unbelievable problem here with feral cats. Is that common there as well?
Now this is where I agree. The GL has been exploited for as long as it’s been around. I’ve been very vocal on shooting forums about this, and have warned that the GL will be challenged due to people taking liberty.OK, let's be clear on a few things first:
1) Chris Packham is far from a "dreamy armchair environmentalists"; whether you agree with him or not he is a very experienced and knowledgeable naturalist. He understands the science and the politics of the situation.
2) All they have done is point out that farmers, gamekeepers and landowners have been breaking the law using the general license in the way they have so either the law must be changed, the killing stops, or the perpetrators are prosecuted - NE have decided to stop issuing licenses until it can be sorted.
There's always a third truth that will fall between these two extremes. We would probably all agree that pest levels of wildlife need to be controlled (even vegetarians will have to concede that it will protect the supply of vegetables) but if there is no policing or control on who does the killing, how the killing is done, and to what level (as is/was the current/yesterday's position) wildlife doesn't stand a chance. To put it into perspective (and I joke not) the farmers around here couldn't tell you the difference between a raven a crow and a rook - should they be doing the killing?
Air rifles are brilliant, however a 1000 pigeons on a field in a morning will lawnmower crops, the one or two popped off isn’t effective pest control.If that is so high, then an air rifle is silent......
Birds of prey are generally not shot on the uk, there’s not a lot of them compared to pigeon numbers.Even if all pests are removed, and the farmer will harvest 100% of the potential amount, he/she will still make the same money.
Supply and demand.
Larger production - prices will drop.
I do not understand why birds of prey are shot.
The eagles in southern Sweden got extinct because the farmers' Old Wifes said that eagles take newborn lamb, and peck out the eyes of newborn calves. And could take little Sven from the pram.
So the men shot them, usually by finding the nests and perforating the eggs and mama from below with shot.
Then the other ones
As a child, me and dad used to drive long distances to see hawks and such. I am talking a couple of hundred kilometers.
Well it won’t make difference to him will it, I don’t understand your post?Doubt it will make much difference to that gamekeeper from Leadhills poisening bait to kill birds of prey then getting an utter joke of a slap on the wrist when he was caught.
Can't remember his name now but I'd be willing to put a fiver on his boss being in on it too.
A quick Google throws his name up and as I believe in things like that following a chap about his name is Lewis Whitham.
He was convicted so theres no doubt about it, just in case sombody whines about me putting it up.
Healthy? Without eyes?When that happened to my friend in Sweden, he ate the lamb. Or calf.
The mother should protect it, so has the mother protecting instinct been bred away?
Was the lamb healthy?
( just pushing ideas around)
I’m sorry, I had no intention to offend you.Not funny.
Yes, I like to call a spade a spade. Not English, am I? No sense of decorum etc...
Healthy before the attack of course.
My friend told me weak lamb and calves were often attacked, that sometimes the mother even abandoned them, so foxes and other animals took them.
If he saw a repeated problem with a female (mother) , he slaughtered her.
As much as I dislike lamb, I agree, hogget is the way forward, it is far better.Had I lived closer to you, you would get orders for me.
Hoggett.. The best meat.
Impossible to get these days. I would even buy that older eve from you.....
(That is what comes with age, the straight talking, and taste for REAL meat!
That is how I met my longtime friends, the farmers. My chase for good food.. )
Even the RSPB cull pest species of birds on their reserves to protect eggs and chicks etc. Packham will be well aware that this legal challenge will have a negative impact on protected species this year so I wouldn't have thought he'd have approached this lightly.There's always a third truth that will fall between these two extremes. We would probably all agree that pest levels of wildlife need to be controlled (even vegetarians will have to concede that it will protect the supply of vegetables) but if there is no policing or control on who does the killing, how the killing is done, and to what level (as is/was the current/yesterday's position) wildlife doesn't stand a chance. To put it into perspective (and I joke not) the farmers around here couldn't tell you the difference between a raven a crow and a rook - should they be doing the killing?