Just remember to take it away with you and dispose of it properly and I have no arguments. Hang it on a bush and I'll get the dog warden out!
Bushcraft Etiquette (resurrected)
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Actually all joking aside this is a serious etiquette issue and not much spoken about. When I took my patrol camp leader badge in the guides back in the eons of time we had to know how to build and manage a proper latrine. How many people do more than dig a hole each time they need to go, or pack it out? I always build a latrine from habit if I'm out wild camping in the woods. A log seat makes things more comfortable. Two crossed logs each side of the hole with a sturdy log laid across it. When finished and before leaving it's filled in and marked with crossed sticks. Hole must be about a foot or more deep.
Depth is a very variable thing. The idea is that it be deep enough to prevent anything getting dug up, turned over or washed out, but not so deep that you are into the bacterially barren sub-soil where ones deposits won't break down. That is assuming that one is digging in soil that has both top soil and subsoil, and isn't all sand or rocks.
Weird, I thought the same a few days ago.
When our dogs ( 2 Cockers) were alive, we used to carry a small shovel and just move the dog produced fertilizer under a bush closeby.
Not for the ‘plastic waste ‘ reason, but because I think it is super unhygienic to touch fecalia with my hands, as those bags are posdibly holed, and then tying it ( and posdibly getting the manure on my hands) and creating a tiny hot house and incubation chamber for the myriads of bacteria and parasites.
When our dogs ( 2 Cockers) were alive, we used to carry a small shovel and just move the dog produced fertilizer under a bush closeby.
Not for the ‘plastic waste ‘ reason, but because I think it is super unhygienic to touch fecalia with my hands, as those bags are posdibly holed, and then tying it ( and posdibly getting the manure on my hands) and creating a tiny hot house and incubation chamber for the myriads of bacteria and parasites.
I do believe that you can get compost able ones made of cornstarch. But these tend to be more fragile than the plastic kind. Yes I too would move dog poo into a hedge with a pooper scooper carried in a plastic bag when I had dogs. I realy don't know the answer to it. As you say there is a chance of getting it on your hands. I carried wet wipes and also hand gel so that should sort that problem. Trouble is then you end up with hedges full of dog poop. Not nice to walk past especially on a hot day. The resulting odour is less than pleasant.
To me, the most sensible bit of bushcraft ettiquette is to be quiet. Natural sounds.
Even wood splitting is OK. The snap and crackle of a conifer wood fire is a normal expectation.
Carry some sort of a digger so you can bury what you don't plan to bring home.
Dig a deep waste pit that you use for everything and then cover it as you leave.
Herbivore scat (moose, elk, mule deer, white-tail deer, mountain sheep, mountain goat)
doesn't have much of a smell and there's a lot of it around here, even in my front yard!.
The dogs figured it was a buffet for them, elk was the best.
Omnivore/carnivore scat is the worst here. Worse than pigs. The bears and the wolves & coyotes.
They always crap in the middle of the logging roads so you don't have to dodge the piles.
Cattle in the high grazing leases just let fly in every direction.
Llama turds on a hot summer day will stink for miles. For a while here,
Llama scat was a so-very-trendy thing to dig into home flower beds.
Never. Again.
Even wood splitting is OK. The snap and crackle of a conifer wood fire is a normal expectation.
Carry some sort of a digger so you can bury what you don't plan to bring home.
Dig a deep waste pit that you use for everything and then cover it as you leave.
Herbivore scat (moose, elk, mule deer, white-tail deer, mountain sheep, mountain goat)
doesn't have much of a smell and there's a lot of it around here, even in my front yard!.
The dogs figured it was a buffet for them, elk was the best.
Omnivore/carnivore scat is the worst here. Worse than pigs. The bears and the wolves & coyotes.
They always crap in the middle of the logging roads so you don't have to dodge the piles.
Cattle in the high grazing leases just let fly in every direction.
Llama turds on a hot summer day will stink for miles. For a while here,
Llama scat was a so-very-trendy thing to dig into home flower beds.
Never. Again.
This thread is turning into a load of crap; get the Red Dress out
I really don't know where this thread is going
But, I agree about noise. Why anyone thinks it's acceptable to sit around a campfire at night and start playing YouTube videos on their phones is totally beyond me and will always get a few choice words from me - either that or I just walk off these days
But, I agree about noise. Why anyone thinks it's acceptable to sit around a campfire at night and start playing YouTube videos on their phones is totally beyond me and will always get a few choice words from me - either that or I just walk off these days
I can not even fathom why people take entertainment electronics into nature!
Youtube videos would be fine if I choose the music, but a guitarr?
Or even worse, an ukulele.....
I used to hunt with a guy that always took a balalaika with him.
One day he discovered I used those in the ear hearing protectors, he was not happy!
I get into nature to hear silence. No cars, only natural sounds.
These days nature is mote silent than ever as I have lost lots of my hearing. I am supposed to wear two hearing aids.
Youtube videos would be fine if I choose the music, but a guitarr?
Or even worse, an ukulele.....
I used to hunt with a guy that always took a balalaika with him.
One day he discovered I used those in the ear hearing protectors, he was not happy!
I get into nature to hear silence. No cars, only natural sounds.
These days nature is mote silent than ever as I have lost lots of my hearing. I am supposed to wear two hearing aids.
People find solace and piece in many ways, many joggers will listen to music as they jog, others whistle while they walk, whatever floats your boat, but I must admit it can be annoying when loud music is thrust upon your ears, I remember back when Walkmans were in vogue, everyone had them turned right up so everyone could hear the music even if they didn't want too, now its the same with phones, very obtrusive.
But people wearing earpieces totally oblivious to their surroundings, traffic, and all can be quite dangerous too.
But people wearing earpieces totally oblivious to their surroundings, traffic, and all can be quite dangerous too.
As you all expect, streams of mountain snow-melt water come bounding and smashing down over the rocks
with a lot of spray and considerable sound. In the big June melt, you can hear the rocks rolling on the bottoms.
Based on fire-pit stone rings for camp sites, I can't show you more than 1 in 10 which is within 100M of a creek.
The other 36 are tucked back into the shelter of the conifer forest, near a lake shore or some abandoned gravel pit for big tents and caravans.
I suspect that the water noise drives the campers away. It sure isn't for lack of flat spots to pitch a tent or three.
with a lot of spray and considerable sound. In the big June melt, you can hear the rocks rolling on the bottoms.
Based on fire-pit stone rings for camp sites, I can't show you more than 1 in 10 which is within 100M of a creek.
The other 36 are tucked back into the shelter of the conifer forest, near a lake shore or some abandoned gravel pit for big tents and caravans.
I suspect that the water noise drives the campers away. It sure isn't for lack of flat spots to pitch a tent or three.
Canned music - even if it is stuff I like - and huge amounts of light to drown out the natural night and destroy the atmosphere of the night time woods ... worse than head torches around the camp fire (especially when the lanterns are left burning when the site is unattended!) PITA!
I have been on a couple of treks to the finnish lapland in autumn where it was neccesary to use headlamp when cooking or doing some other stuff because it was pitch black in the forrest in the evening.
It can be like that here too. Overcast skies late on in the year, or very early in the new one, and you can't see your hand in front of your face. Even down near water which reflects.
It is great being out in the dark months - I was out last weekend when it was pitch black at about 5pm - and yes, torches are needed then...
But folk coming into the campfire with headtorches blazing into your eyes as they turn to look at you - not good!
But folk coming into the campfire with headtorches blazing into your eyes as they turn to look at you - not good!
