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Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
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lots of people regard science as being concrete, but science says a bee can not fly and that the brain cannot work.


Huh?

Where have you been reading that one?
Its one of those urban myth "facts" isn't it;)

Everything is explainable, just not always right now.

I am optimistic that we will get there in the end if we as a race just keep chipping away at it.

Mind there will always be those who won't understand the answers even when they are presented (can't say my astrophysics and cosmology are that hot either) and feel then need to make up something thats simpler (even if it has no supporting evidence whatsoever) to understand but hey ho.

I suspect I am de-railing this a bit:eek: .

Anyway, I can't say I'm a big fan of the green handle but I have seen worse looking knives on here from time to time.

I like my work tools to be identifiable to everyone so spray em with flourescent blue paint, might not be to some tastes but it ensures I get em back at the end of the day, its the same thing I suppose.
 

Squidders

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Aug 3, 2004
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exactly, they said it cant fly and now they say it can:D which suggests that everything they ''know'' is uncertain. and if they say they dont know but just think thats how it is, then they still dont know.

so to reiterate,

when they say they know, they might change there minds and say they now know that they didnt know because they now that it is how it is now and not like it was before = THEY DONT REALLY KNOW.

when they say they dont know, they sont know = THEY DONT KNOW.

LOL

You should put some ice on your head and get an early night mate :lmao:

I would rather scientists change their mind when new evidence is presented than not... the alternative is rabid scientists running around burning people alive if they come forward with any new information and branding them heretics :D
 

British Red

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Dec 30, 2005
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Try saying

"Its not caused by man made carbon emissions, its a natural cycle"

around a climatologist some time. Bet they froth at the mouth and reach for the matches and petrol! :D

Red
 

Shinken

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Try saying

"Its not caused by man made carbon emissions, its a natural cycle"

around a climatologist some time. Bet they froth at the mouth and reach for the matches and petrol!

lol

I would rather scientists change their mind when new evidence is presented than not... the alternative is rabid scientists running around burning people alive if they come forward with any new information and branding them heretics

new evidence that will probably be ''proved'' wrong again.

as you can see i am not a big fan of science anymore, i think it goes too far. animal cloning, atomic bombs, machine guns, green stabalized f1's with pentogram pins, devices of torture etc etc. we need to limit our desire for understang what we cant understand in my opinion. and thats all it is an opinion of a lump of carbon with life animating it.

early night for me huh:swordfigh
 

Squidders

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Well every time we do something it's science... if you make a knife, you learn things and use that knowledge to refine your skill. That to me is science.

Yes, these things can be perverted by terrible people in to bad things but the same can be said with anything from aronists to people to train dogs to fight to the death or make green knives for crystal gripping hippie sacrificial activities. :lmao:

On the plus side, without science, we'd never have the interweb, D2 steel, power tools, dams steel or pirelli calendars :D
 

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Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
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new evidence that will probably be ''proved'' wrong again.

as you can see i am not a big fan of science anymore, i think it goes too far. animal cloning, atomic bombs, machine guns, green stabalized f1's with pentogram pins, devices of torture etc etc. we need to limit our desire for understang what we cant understand in my opinion. and thats all it is an opinion of a lump of carbon with life animating it.

early night for me huh:swordfigh

If we have to get into devices of torture its worth doing a quick Google on Tomás de Torquemada who clearly wasn't a scientist;)

We wouldn't even be debating the points we are now on the internerd without science and innovation.

On the flip side of nuclear weapons being bloody nasty is radiography, Computerized Axial Tomography (CAT scans) even some elements of X ray crystallography (which made huge differences in DNA research) owe some details to it.

Now I admit that I find the whole prospect of mutually assured distruction (MAD for short) despicable but to say that science it's self is bad?
Thats like throwing the baby away with the bathwater.

Anyway, as I look to have started this discussion about fairy tales versus evidence based fact;) I really feel that if I don't draw a line under it the thread will get locked.

For me, the five pointed star design has no more or no less "Power" then the cross.
Its just a shape and some people like different shapes.

Looks OK to me.

<whistles>
 

Shinken

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If we have to get into devices of torture its worth doing a quick Google on Tom&#225;s de Torquemada who clearly wasn't a scientist

yes but no but, if this fellow used devices so science has been used along the way somewhere.

but to say that science it's self is bad?

no science isnt bad, its only a word after all. similar to religion. both just word but used by man to to bad with, and in fairness good.

personally i dont like either word.

and personally i dont like the way that we put our hope in science and think its silly to believe that love is a ''chemical reaction''

where is science going to take us if we cant stop ourselves from being so bad, we consider ourselves civilized but how many murders are committed in this country? rapes? thefts? unless we can deal with our own sin science will only give us tools for doing bad as we are bad.

so thats why i am not keen on science, we teach our children to put hope in science and we dont teach them the real issue. and that is how to be good. but how can we teach them to be good if we arent good ourselves? we cant. and that is why God sent his only begotten son to die on the cross for us. to show us how sinfull we are. because even though he did no wrong we beat and murdered him.

if someone beat me up and murdered me i would be deserving, in the past i have stolen, used woman for my own desire, lied, tricked, deceived.

yet the world dosnt beat me for all these things, it beat Christ who didnt do any of these things.

So you see science cant make bad people better, its not science that made the atomic bomb its man, its not science that made the machine gun its man.

so we see that chipping away at discoverys is never going to do us any good because we have proven throughout history that man will always use new discoverys for his own wrongdoing. and when you look at new technology, most was discovered or can be linked to tecnology that was discovered during the war.
 

leon-1

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First thing, science cannot be a bad thing in itself, it's an impossibility. It's like saying "but it made me do it" or blaming a knife for cutting. It's the direction that people put techniques to that make the difference, you have free will, which means you have a choice. Good and bad are words, how we determine what they are depends upon how they are imprinted upon us by immediate influence, like family, friends and what we are taught at schools in our formative years.

Secondly, Interesting thread, we seem to have managed to manouevre ourselves all the way from a mass manufacturer placing scales on a knife, all the way to discussing theology and how to right the world of its problems.:rolleyes:

Now I am waiting for the interesting bit where you guys do a Billy Connolly on me and bring the story all the way back to the knives, remember it will need a good punch line, you may also be required to grow a goatee, long hair and develop a Glaswegian accent to pull it off though and that would be impressive when you are typing:).
 

Shinken

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bring the story all the way back to the knives

i am no Billy, but i can do the knife thing using fact.

can an properly maintained and sharpened cut well = yes
can it hold an edge well in comparison to other knives on the whole = yes
is the green material a strong durable material suited to knives = yes
will some people like this knife = yes
will some people not like this knife = yes
 

Bogman10

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Dec 28, 2006
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I feel the same about the blade. It's still too thick and crude for my taste. I do like the handle though. BRKT makes one of the finest handles i can think of. The price is indeed too steep, but it's about the same as a micarta F1. I wouldn't buy one. Reprofiling may be an option.

I have a BRKT fox River with stag handles, while it is not my most expensive knife, it is my favorite all round bush knife.

as far as the "Green Meanie", beauty is in the Eye of the beholder. If we all had the same tastes, we would all have the same knife!
Nice knife!
 

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