On a recent scout camp I used my 3x3 tarp with a single pole.Never done this before, and it worked rather well...
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On a recent scout camp I used my 3x3 tarp with a single pole.Never done this before, and it worked rather well...
Thank you Nomad for that viglink opt out link.
I do not understand why I got it on my computer as I never agreed to ‘opt in’.
Nice shelter, Woody110!
That is all you need 99% of the time!
I do not understand why I got it on my computer as I never agreed to ‘opt in’.
Nice shelter, Woody110!
That is all you need 99% of the time!
Woody110 - a picture is much better than my sketch.
Option 1 in post #15
That is a good shelter & 'sit-up-able' in.
Option 1 in post #15
That is a good shelter & 'sit-up-able' in.
to be honest, I gave him the best Answers I can.
The pole I recommend is about 300g, not 1,6kg.
And stuff like that, quality stuff, costs money.
Who cant pay it should go to areas, where he can find a tree or hasel stick. That works too.
You do not get every thing for free.
He really got the best answers, he can get.
If he is frustrated about the world how it is, we cant change it.
He will become more frustrated with his weak poles. Because that doesn't work.
The pole I recommend is about 300g, not 1,6kg.
And stuff like that, quality stuff, costs money.
Who cant pay it should go to areas, where he can find a tree or hasel stick. That works too.
You do not get every thing for free.
He really got the best answers, he can get.
If he is frustrated about the world how it is, we cant change it.
He will become more frustrated with his weak poles. Because that doesn't work.
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I missed your second post, apologies. That pole does look like a great option actually. Cheaper than the MSR offering too. I might just have to pick one up. For what it's worth I also like your recommendation re shelter kit and use a similar setup myself (including snugpak bivi). As it happens I'm also looking for a new poncho so will check out the Defcon 5 option.
@The Lord Poncho
Are your poles the twist lock type or the screw on the side type? sorry if i missed that.
I like decathlon kit and will look into that deeper.
Thanks for replies so far.
Are your poles the twist lock type or the screw on the side type? sorry if i missed that.
I like decathlon kit and will look into that deeper.
Thanks for replies so far.
For the interested, I left my basha up all night in pretty grotty weather with the go outdoors poles and it is still standing.
Doesn't appear to be under any stress, likey to break. in fact I think having a little bit of flexibility is helping to not overstress the eyelets.
Doesn't appear to be under any stress, likey to break. in fact I think having a little bit of flexibility is helping to not overstress the eyelets.
They are the screw lock/twist lock type, not the screw poking out the side type.
@mousey
That might be a good option.
Usually similar sources are military tent pole sections, some from steel, some aluminium and some wooden with steel tube connections.
Yes organic!
Unfortunately good quality lightweight aluminium is relatively new and expensive and the old lightweight solution was WOOD.
The standard army tent pole sections had been made from wood till round about 1980 with steel tube connection, later steel tubes or heavy aluminium.
I guess they had been in use in every army and you get them everywhere very cheap.
But unconnectet sections are tricky in use, if you are alone!
But modern aluminium like you know it from bicycles, tent poles, airplanes is worth the investment, even if you have usually the opinion, that surplus from the nineties is fine and cheap. The new aluminium poles are far lighter than old ones.
And ones more to make it understandable:
Even for a bike packer trekking poles are an option because they are relatively cheap, very strong, some pack down very compact, some exist in a tested tough construction made from CARBONE which is ultra ultra ultra light, Most have a loop what is nice to have to hang up something like socks, torch or food.
If I cut a hasel stick I add at first a loop to the handle for my socks.
THE TREKKING POLE, WHICH I NEVER WOULD USE IN NORMAL FLAT COUNTRY, CAN BE THE BETTER TENT POLE, EVEN FOR BIKERS!
IT IS IDIOTIC TO EXCLUDE THIS OPTION FROM THE BEGINNING.
THEY ARE TOUGH AND OFTEN CHEAP!
That might be a good option.
Usually similar sources are military tent pole sections, some from steel, some aluminium and some wooden with steel tube connections.
Yes organic!
Unfortunately good quality lightweight aluminium is relatively new and expensive and the old lightweight solution was WOOD.
The standard army tent pole sections had been made from wood till round about 1980 with steel tube connection, later steel tubes or heavy aluminium.
I guess they had been in use in every army and you get them everywhere very cheap.
But unconnectet sections are tricky in use, if you are alone!
But modern aluminium like you know it from bicycles, tent poles, airplanes is worth the investment, even if you have usually the opinion, that surplus from the nineties is fine and cheap. The new aluminium poles are far lighter than old ones.
And ones more to make it understandable:
Even for a bike packer trekking poles are an option because they are relatively cheap, very strong, some pack down very compact, some exist in a tested tough construction made from CARBONE which is ultra ultra ultra light, Most have a loop what is nice to have to hang up something like socks, torch or food.
If I cut a hasel stick I add at first a loop to the handle for my socks.
THE TREKKING POLE, WHICH I NEVER WOULD USE IN NORMAL FLAT COUNTRY, CAN BE THE BETTER TENT POLE, EVEN FOR BIKERS!
IT IS IDIOTIC TO EXCLUDE THIS OPTION FROM THE BEGINNING.
THEY ARE TOUGH AND OFTEN CHEAP!
I have 4 packs of poles and pegs I bought for a project and have not used. Don't know what nationality they are. 3 pole sections 11inches long and 4 alloy angle pegs 9 inches long in each bag.
Yesterday I couldn't see the Decathlon offers. Somehow it was blocked.
I don't know the first offer, the stainless steel tarp poles. I think they are heavy and will do a good job.
I own Decathlon Tarp Poles like that, which they deliver with the tarp Arpenaz Kaki, they are fine for car camping. I never would put them in my rucksack
I KNOW THE SECOND OFFER, THE THIN ALUMINIUM TUBES, FROM THE SHOP. I DON'T OWN THEM, BUT I THOUGHT ABOUT BUYING THEM FOR MY TENT AND HAD THEM 20 MINUTES IN THE HANDS. I OPENED THE PACKAGE AND PLAYED AROUND WITH THEM.
THAT TUBES ARE MADE AS A REPLACEMENT FOR TUNNEL OR IGLOO TENTS. THEY ARE MORE OR LESS LIKE THE FIBREGLASS POLES IN THE PICTURES, HIGHER QUALITY, BUT NEARLY STRONG OR WEAK LIKE THE OTHERS.
THEY ARE TO THIN TO USE THEM AS TARP POLES FOR A-FRAME OR LEAN TO SHELTERS.
THAT ARE GOOD POLES FOR MODERN TENTS, WHERE BOWS ARE NEEDED.
I don't know the first offer, the stainless steel tarp poles. I think they are heavy and will do a good job.
I own Decathlon Tarp Poles like that, which they deliver with the tarp Arpenaz Kaki, they are fine for car camping. I never would put them in my rucksack
I KNOW THE SECOND OFFER, THE THIN ALUMINIUM TUBES, FROM THE SHOP. I DON'T OWN THEM, BUT I THOUGHT ABOUT BUYING THEM FOR MY TENT AND HAD THEM 20 MINUTES IN THE HANDS. I OPENED THE PACKAGE AND PLAYED AROUND WITH THEM.
THAT TUBES ARE MADE AS A REPLACEMENT FOR TUNNEL OR IGLOO TENTS. THEY ARE MORE OR LESS LIKE THE FIBREGLASS POLES IN THE PICTURES, HIGHER QUALITY, BUT NEARLY STRONG OR WEAK LIKE THE OTHERS.
THEY ARE TO THIN TO USE THEM AS TARP POLES FOR A-FRAME OR LEAN TO SHELTERS.
THAT ARE GOOD POLES FOR MODERN TENTS, WHERE BOWS ARE NEEDED.
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Google French army pup tent poles. Aluminium, one piece lightweight. Designed to hold up a small A frame tent. I have the older version. Slips down the side of of my pack nice and easy. You can pick them up in surplus stores or online nice and cheap.
Or this will fit your bill. Cheap as chips to.
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/hungarian-tent-accessory-set-surplus/29839
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Or this will fit your bill. Cheap as chips to.
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/hungarian-tent-accessory-set-surplus/29839
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