Best 3-season sleeping bag for a hammock?

[mountainm]

Apart from the obvious bulk I'm sure there's other reasons why we don't take our bed duvets with us camping, maybe Mat will chime in later an explain the difference because I don't have a clue.
Maybe get one and pull out the filling, get some decent lightweight water resistant fabric and have a go

I can't afford a £75 experiment - however for cold season camping close to the car this seems to be a good compromise re warmth/cash instead of a TQ. I'm sure if Duvets were OG or black pertex we wouldn't think twice, and I'm guessing it packs smaller and lighter than a wool blanket which people do use. Be interesting to see how small a single down duvet stuffs to, as they're usually just packaged folded.

 

[Shewie]

I can't afford a £75 experiment - however for cold season camping close to the car this seems to be a good compromise re warmth/cash instead of a TQ. I'm sure if Duvets were OG or black pertex we wouldn't think twice, and I'm guessing it packs smaller and lighter than a wool blanket which people do use. Be interesting to see how small a single down duvet stuffs to, as they're usually just packaged folded.

Got to be worth trying, can't say I've ever used a home duvet outdoors, I wonder if they hold onto the heat well ?

 

[Large Sack]

Got to be worth trying, can't say I've ever used a home duvet outdoors, I wonder if they hold onto the heat well ?

Er...OK...I'll 'fess up...

When car camping with wife and kids, my wife and I have a queen size aero bed and use our old king size down duvet on top of us with a fleece blanket under us. TBH it's usually only the summer months but I sleep as well as I would at home. OK so there's some shared body heat, but I would definitely think there's some merit to this idea.

When I'm on my tod I use one of unsponsored's 3/4 length quilts as an extra to either be thrown over the bag or to be tucked in with me. Just love the quilt idea in general I think.

Cheers
Sack

 

[mountainm]

OK, so I popped into Dunelm today and managed to persuade the duty manager to get a single 85% duck down duvet out the box (the 100% goose down is better/smaller but they were selling for £120 so I thought I'd stand a better chance with the duck down).

Couldn't do that much with him stood over my shoulder but I can confirm I think it should pack down to about the size of my Gelert X-treme lite sleeping bag
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00322QR...de=asn&creative=22218&creativeASIN=B00322QRIW
if not smaller, felt a lot lighter too.

Soon as I have some cash I think I'll be splashing it on the hungarian goose down one on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....824566&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT#ht_5296wt_966
Perhaps with a view to rehousing it in pertex later on - but maybe not.

 

[PDA1]

I just recently scored a king size duvet, 80% goose down plus feathers, at the local thrift store for USD 10. The intention was to make a top quilt from it, or from the down it contains. I will measure and weigh the whole thing and see how much it can be compressed tonight and report back. I think the polyester cotton covering is pretty heavy compared with the 1.0 oz nylon typically used for sleeping bags.

 

[mountainm]

I just recently scored a king size duvet, 80% goose down plus feathers, at the local thrift store for USD 10. The intention was to make a top quilt from it, or from the down it contains. I will measure and weigh the whole thing and see how much it can be compressed tonight and report back. I think the polyester cotton covering is pretty heavy compared with the 1.0 oz nylon typically used for sleeping bags.

Aye - there's definitely weight savings to be had, but for the money an ebay special 100% down single duvet it's a very economical option.

 

[tobes01]

I've taken the plunge and ordered a quilt set from Mat at UKHammocks - will put up a review once I've had a chance to play...

 

[PDA1]

@MountinM: This thing is so enormous that I'm sure I could stitch and cut it to make at least two, and probably three quilts. Three for USD 10 and a couple of hours work wouldn't be bad. Actually, I would be better making an under quilt plus an overquilt. The weight would be OK for car camping, but probably too much for back-packing.

 

[garethw]

Hi there
I've just got the Highlander Ranger 1 that has a centre zip for this very reason, only £39. Not used it yet, so jury is still out as to weather it works with a hammock. Will be testing it this week. But is looks reasonable quality, and packs down small... Don't know haw warm will be. Will post back when I've used it.
Cheers
Gareth

 

[Springheeljack1]

I have a Nanok Endurance -10, it warm and comfy, but its big, half of my saber 45 vanishes when it goes in, oh the side zips can be a pain too. I've been looking at these underquilts things for while, it seems too good to be true though.
Looking forward to your review Tobes01!

 

[Neumo]

I am swinging round to the idea of one of these hammock duvets. I have the unsponsored UQ that is good for the summer & ,ay look at a proper winter one if I want to get into winter hammocking proper.

 

[Shewie]

I've taken the plunge and ordered a quilt set from Mat at UKHammocks - will put up a review once I've had a chance to play...

Well done mate, what specs are you getting ?

 

[Aragorn]

Been reading this thread and mulling a few ideas round in my head. I currently have a snugpack uq and thing it's great, but bulky as everyone has said. Would it be feasable to open a seam, remove the syntheic filling and replace it with down ? how expensive is down filling and is it easily available ? , or would it be less hassle to sell the uq and save for a ukhammocks down one ?

 

[Shewie]

Been reading this thread and mulling a few ideas round in my head. I currently have a snugpack uq and thing it's great, but bulky as everyone has said. Would it be feasable to open a seam, remove the syntheic filling and replace it with down ? how expensive is down filling and is it easily available ? , or would it be less hassle to sell the uq and save for a ukhammocks down one ?

From what I can remember of mine Alan, I don't think the Snugpak has any baffles in it, in other words it's just two layers of fabric with the insulation cut to the same shape and sandwiched in between. You need some kind of baffles to hold the down in place otherwise it will just move about willy nilly, they could just be simple sewn through or box wall. You could try and put some sewn through baffles in but I don't think there'll be enough fabric to get decent sized tubes.

If you fancy having a go then you could just buy the down and fabric and put it together yourself, there's some good info on Hammockforums.net in the DIY section. I was lazy though and sold my Snuggy and treated myself to some downy goodness

 

[tobes01]

Well done mate, what specs are you getting ?

Nah, I'm buying some quilts, my eyesight's OK

Gone for summer weights, extra length top quilt (cos I like to gather it round my shoulders) with footbox. Standard UQ. Will let you know when they appear

 

[Aragorn]

From what I can remember of mine Alan, I don't think the Snugpak has any baffles in it, in other words it's just two layers of fabric with the insulation cut to the same shape and sandwiched in between. You need some kind of baffles to hold the down in place otherwise it will just move about willy nilly, they could just be simple sewn through or box wall. You could try and put some sewn through baffles in but I don't think there'll be enough fabric to get decent sized tubes.

If you fancy having a go then you could just buy the down and fabric and put it together yourself, there's some good info on Hammockforums.net in the DIY section. I was lazy though and sold my Snuggy and treated myself to some downy goodness

cheers rich, I think your right about the baffles, in work at the minute so can't check. Will proberbly bite the bullet and save up for them, hopefully get them before winter.

 

[Mathowes]

Apart from the obvious bulk I'm sure there's other reasons why we don't take our bed duvets with us camping, maybe Mat will chime in later an explain the difference because I don't have a clue.
Maybe get one and pull out the filling, get some decent lightweight water resistant fabric and have a go

Okay,
Well its all about the loft, Down as an insulator has the same properties no matter what Fill power you use, so a 100% down duvet with very poor (less than 400fill) down in will need 4x the amount of down as a £450 100% 800fill duvet to get the same tog rating. its all down to air trapped in the fibers of the down, i would not advise duvet down as due to the poor quality you will need so much down to keep you warm it would not be any lighter/smaller that a synthetic alternative.

so when we put that in terms of quilts,

my quilts all use 100% pure 900fill White goose down, with only 250g of this down i can fill a full length top quilt (210cmx155cm) with around a 3-4 inch loft taking you down to around 0'c and with 500g i took mine down to -14'c and was still hot!

Again fabric plays a big part too it must be down proof and not waterproof! the last thing you want is moisture becoming trapped inside you down bag as this will dramaticly reduce your heat retention!

Also downproof does not mean featherproof! so if you are useing poorer quality down you will need to sift out the big sharp feathers because if it puctures your fabric down will follow!!!.

hope this clears a few things up.

 

[mountainm]

makes sense, but proper TQs are too expensive for me I'm afraid.. the duvets I've seen are 600 fill which given the price doesnt sound too bad.

 

[Mathowes]

Go for it mate! If need any help finding the downproof fabric give me a shout as I buy by the roll so can do you some at £4 P/M posted, get rid of the feathers and you should be fine!

 

[Shewie]

Also downproof does not mean featherproof! so if you are useing poorer quality down you will need to sift out the big sharp feathers because if it puctures your fabric down will follow!!!.

I've got an image in my head of you filing down the points on feathers