Bear grylls Knife and SWC knife question.

Frazer d

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Jun 22, 2011
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Hey guys. I was wondering how much the Bayley s4 is and how rare they are. I have been looking on google and have not seen any for sale. My other question is about my Ray Mears S.W.C knife. I was wondering If it comes with a lifetime guarantee??, just in case anything goes wrong with it since Im going to use it as my knife not just a display item. Any help would be much appreciated :)

Cheers,

Frazer.
 

woof

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Apr 12, 2008
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I don't know about the Griylls knife, but there is a member on here who currently has issues with the guarante on his swc knife, albeit, he purchased it direct as opposed to going through woodlore. There have been others on BB who have also had issues with swc, i'm one of them, again we all dealt direct as opposed to going throuh woodlore.

Rob
 

Frazer d

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Jun 22, 2011
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Ok, thanks for the help.I'm just a bit concerned there being no help If something goes wrong when I use this knife.
 

JonathanD

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The only way you will get a Bear Grylls Bayley with a signed blade is to get one pre-owned. I have seen them from £550 to £1100 depending on condition. An unsigned one goes from about £400 to £700 condition dependant. Rob only made about 100 of the signed version, and stopped making them in 2009 when Bear went with Gerber. He does still make the unsigned S4, but has closed the books as the wait time was 10 years and counting due to demand. I doubt you will find a signed blade without paying a ransom now though.
 

coln18

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Aug 10, 2009
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Im the other member on here Woof was talking about, i have emailed steve over 10 times without reply and was given his number by a really helpful famous bushcraft school but still not been able to get hold of him, his admin is really terrible, although his knives are a work of art. Hopefully if you bought a SWC through Woodlore you would be fine as Woodlore really value their reputation and their customer service is usually spot on. Hope this helps mate.
 

Dazza76

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Jun 28, 2011
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I've also had troubles with SWC. To be fair his workmanship is excellent but his customer service is non-existent. If you buy one of the ones he does for the RM site I'd hope you'd be ok though as I can't imagine that's an account he'd be prepared to jeopardise.
 

JonathanD

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I've also had troubles with SWC. To be fair his workmanship is excellent but his customer service is non-existent. If you buy one of the ones he does for the RM site I'd hope you'd be ok though as I can't imagine that's an account he'd be prepared to jeopardise.

More importantly, Woodlore would stand by their product and reputation more than their supplier. That's when paying for the Ray Mears logo starts to actually mean something.
 

Dazza76

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Jun 28, 2011
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Yep, I'd tend to agree with that Jonathan. In what little dealings I've had with woodlore they have been first class. I had my RM clone made to order directly from SWC though. At first he was fine but when it was time for my order to come to fruition I couldn't get a response from him for love nor money. I just pray I never have a warranty issue with the knife.
 

wickerman

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May 6, 2010
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i have a swc ray mears knife bought through woodlore two years ago never used store out of sheath in the box it came in ,about four weeks ago noticed the scales had shrank got in touch with woodlore they were great all sorted with in a week.
 

Retired Member southey

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you mean it was stored in a box and the scales shrank? crazy, I mean it's wood? wood contracts if you don't feed it, oils either from a bottle or your hand, if that's the reasons that people are getting them "fixed" then you should feel lucky they even bothered to return you contact, IMO.
 

Dazza76

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Jun 28, 2011
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I've read it's quite a common issue with the SWC knives from woodlore. Though I think the reason is down to people not knowing how to care for the wood and the nature of wood itself. Wood will expand and contract depending on air humidity and such.
 

wickerman

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you mean it was stored in a box and the scales shrank? crazy, I mean it's wood? wood contracts if you don't feed it, oils either from a bottle or your hand, if that's the reasons that people are getting them "fixed" then you should feel lucky they even bothered to return you contact, IMO.
where do you store your knife in a sheath?i have a few knives the scales have not shrunk,and if you pay £295 for a knife you don't expect it to shrink and it was coated in linseed oil
 

Dazza76

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Jun 28, 2011
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To be fair, a quick search on Google would tell you that this is a known problem with this knife. It needs to be treated periodically or this can happen. Same applies to a lot of wood scales and is one reason people go for artificial materials.
If it's sorted then it doesn't matter now anyway :)
 

wickerman

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May 6, 2010
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I've read it's quite a common issue with the SWC knives from woodlore. Though I think the reason is down to people not knowing how to care for the wood and the nature of wood itself. Wood will expand and contract depending on air humidity and such.

Don't think it is down to people not knowing about knife care it is the wood used for the scales no Alan Woods being returned that I have heard of
 

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