Bear Grylls , Escape from Hell

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British Red

M.A.B (Mad About Bushcraft)
Dec 30, 2005
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If leaves aren't vegetables, I guess cabbage, lettuce, sprouts, aren't vegetables either?

If leaves and fruiting bodies aren't vegetables are we to assume that only stems and roots are?
 

Mesquite

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If leaves aren't vegetables, I guess cabbage, lettuce, sprouts, aren't vegetables either?

If leaves and fruiting bodies aren't vegetables are we to assume that only stems and roots are?
[h=2]veg·e·ta·ble[/h] [vej-tuh-buhl, vej-i-tuh-] Show IPA
noun1.any plant whose fruit, seeds, roots, tubers, bulbs, stems, leaves, or flower parts are used as food, asthe tomato, bean, beet, potato, onion, asparagus, spinach, or cauliflower.

2.the edible part of such a plant, as the tuber of the potato.

3.any member of the vegetable kingdom; plant.

4.Informal. a person who is so severely impaired mentally or physically as to be largely incapable ofconscious responses or activity.

5.a dull, spiritless, and uninteresting person.


Looks like you're on a meat diet Hugh ;)
 

chimpy leon

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Jul 29, 2013
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It's a show, pure and simple (Born Survivor), entertainment, never meant to be serious docu's like RM's stuff.

Pity we are still discussing the same old old thing and it's a new show.
+1 I couldn't agree more with that.

I like Bear Grylls's shows because they entertain me, nothing more, nothing less. Good to watch but not to be taken 100 per cent seriously.
 

Ivan...

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Jul 28, 2011
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These threads always, always go the same way! I personally love the little added vegetable discussion, as it calms the whole debate, for what it is worth i used to love Ray Mears, and find Bear a bit silly, but as has been said, it's all entertainment, and we all have a choice to watch or not.

I actually love all vegetables, coz they is good for you, and years of disguising them in childrens meals is an art.

But remember, what is under a ponies tail?

I will leave that one with you.
 

Ivan...

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I am still relatively new to all this computermebob stuff, and in particlar forums, sometimes i think people can be more vocal, when they are sat in the comfort of their own home, i personally would let so much more be said or typed, but i do not own a site and some of the more sensitive souls, need consideration, also remembering minors have access to the site.

I have been told off by mods, when i have stepped out of line, and in the cold light of day have apologised or at least seen the error of my ways.

OOPS, SEE WHAT I MEAN! Anyway, i think we have to realise, that individuals, have different views, and in my opinion, should be allowed to voice them, whatever the subject matter.

I have always been an outspoken so and so, and when i was 19 i thought i knew it all, so sometimes before you slate someone else, for whatever reason, especially publically do your homework (book and cover and all that)

Life ain't fair, and if you are lucky enough to climb a quarter of the trees, i have you will be a very lucky young man.

Ivan...
 
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Emdiesse

Settler
Jan 9, 2005
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Using the same logic.
My car is a vegetable...

Actually, not far off, it's as quick as one...

On the Bear and Mears front, I have learnt new things from both of them, I have learnt things to try and things not to try... and i mean from both of them.

To me, all knowledge is good knowledge and I can make an educated guess at whether 'i think' it's right or I'd try it out.

Feed me knowledge :)

on a side note, haven't little lives been saved from watching bear, mears, whoever, that's what it's about.
 

rik_uk3

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I am still relatively new to all this computermebob stuff, and in particlar forums, sometimes i think people can be more vocal, when they are sat in the comfort of their own home, i personally would let so much more be said or typed, but i do not own a site and some of the more sensitive souls, need consideration, also remembering minors have access to the site.

I have been told off by mods, when i have stepped out of line, and in the cold light of day have apologised or at least seen the error of my ways.

OOPS, SEE WHAT I MEAN! Anyway, i think we have to realise, that individuals, have different views, and in my opinion, should be allowed to voice them, whatever the subject matter.

I have always been an outspoken so and so, and when i was 19 i thought i knew it all, so sometimes before you slate someone else, for whatever reason, especially publically do your homework (book and cover and all that)

Life ain't fair, and if you are lucky enough to climb a quarter of the trees, i have you will be a very lucky young man.

Ivan...
You are clearly new to forums, I've seen my favourite forum bought to its knees because there was and is little or no moderation and members were and are allowed to run amok, fancy seeing that here? No, I'm sure you don't. Another bushcraft forum allowed the 'lads' to vent/pretty much use language of choice and that forum is all but finished now with only a small handful of posts made per week which is a shame as it had a lot of good members who just walked away.

Whilst I think BCUK has been over moderated in the past, this last year things seems to have balanced out and there appears to be far less direct intervention in threads than there were.

We can all get into a heated mood (done that here myself lol) but sometimes it needs someone to say "slow down, enough already" because the spin off from allowing 'free speech' is people just walking away and leaving the angry and opinionated few to run the place.

There ends the sermon.
 
Dec 5, 2011
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You are clearly new to forums, I've seen my favourite forum bought to its knees because there was and is little or no moderation and members were and are allowed to run amok, fancy seeing that here? No, I'm sure you don't. Another bushcraft forum allowed the 'lads' to vent/pretty much use language of choice and that forum is all but finished now with only a small handful of posts made per week which is a shame as it had a lot of good members who just walked away.

Whilst I think BCUK has been over moderated in the past, this last year things seems to have balanced out and there appears to be far less direct intervention in threads than there were.

We can all get into a heated mood (done that here myself lol) but sometimes it needs someone to say "slow down, enough already" because the spin off from allowing 'free speech' is people just walking away and leaving the angry and opinionated few to run the place.

There ends the sermon.
Great post Richard, i agree completely, we all get wound up occasionally or let our fingers loose without engaging brain first, Mods do a very good job IMO.
 

Mr Wolf

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I learned if I have nothing constructive to say or cannot back my points up with fact....it's better to stay quiet.
Or write a post as a draft,do not post it,look at it an hour later with a clearer mind,edit then post
 

Clouston98

Woodsman & Beekeeper
Aug 19, 2013
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I learned if I have nothing constructive to say or cannot back my points up with fact....it's better to stay quiet.
Or write a post as a draft,do not post it,look at it an hour later with a clearer mind,edit then post
Sounds sensible to me, I suppose looking at a drafted post gives the writer a chance to calm down before saying something they regret?
 

Ivan...

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Jul 28, 2011
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I learned if I have nothing constructive to say or cannot back my points up with fact....it's better to stay quiet.
Or write a post as a draft,do not post it,look at it an hour later with a clearer mind,edit then post
I hope to take a leaf from your book, i sometimes write a load of stuff, re read it and then think NO! How right i have been, but i fear it is only a matter of time before the Mod bye bye Pm, but hey ho! I will take it on the chin, like a man.

Ivan...
 
Dec 5, 2011
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I hope to take a leaf from your book, i sometimes write a load of stuff, re read it and then think NO! How right i have been, but i fear it is only a matter of time before the Mod bye bye Pm, but hey ho! I will take it on the chin, like a man.

Ivan...
Dont think ive ever read anything off beam from you Ivan, you've always struck me as a very nice chap with great contributions