Banned dogs - thoughts
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Has any change petition ever resulted in law without it being something a big political party supported enough to drive it through? AFAIK they've only got to the response stage and a polite letter thanking the signatories and saying no to it or if even more interest a short debate in HoC or HoL with nothing else. I'm possibly very cynical but in this case the way these petitions get effectively swept away is a good thing. Bad laws are almost always worse than no laws.
I’d argue Alsatian and guard dog types are much worse they are bred to be wary and dislike strangers.
Not enforceable and taking yet more money out peoples pockets I’m not a fan off chavs with pittbulls either but I’m not willing to pay insurance for a dog.
There was a programme on dogs of a segment of one that looked at food costs for different sized breeds. Small toy, small terrier, collie, lab and great dance iirc. They showed the volume of feed each breed needed a month and cost. Obviously bigger meant more food and higher cost. But then they factored in lifetime of the dog. Terrier lived 18 years typically but ate little, toy less and ate less. Great done ate a lot but typically lived 6 years. Lab ate a bit less than the great dane but lived 14 plus years so you need a lot more money overall to keep it.
I found it all interesting and obvious but then there's breed health. Vet bills can wipe out people's budgets easily. But ppl buy on looks not health.
Then there's insurance. Ppl see it as just for vet bills but it is for third party cover too. All those dog owners who follow the idea of no insurance just putting the insurance money into a saving account for paying later vet bills forget about third party.
Then there's the issue over responsible owners vs irresponsible owners.
I found it all interesting and obvious but then there's breed health. Vet bills can wipe out people's budgets easily. But ppl buy on looks not health.
Then there's insurance. Ppl see it as just for vet bills but it is for third party cover too. All those dog owners who follow the idea of no insurance just putting the insurance money into a saving account for paying later vet bills forget about third party.
Then there's the issue over responsible owners vs irresponsible owners.
Not everyone. To give an idea of costs our Lab cost £140 to insure a month, £1,680 a year. If we get another dog we'll go down the route of putting money aside for vets bills and have looked into liability insurance. At first glance our house insurance probably covers it but if we bought a separate policy it is only a tiny fraction of the normal pet insurance.
As i think the people who most need it are least likely to get it perhaps it should be added to a dog licence cost, but again, only if it is enforced for everyone.
Crikey, either you have a Crufts winning dog, something with a pre existing ilness or maybe shopped round for the worst deal.
Our young Bull Lurcher costs ￡8.50 a month to insure although that doesn't cover fire and theft
Our young Bull Lurcher costs ￡8.50 a month to insure although that doesn't cover fire and theft
Ahh, now I get you. The premiums for one of our cats has started to rise a bit now he's getting on a bit.
I've found this site that might help explain things: https://www.nimblefins.co.uk/average-cost-dog-insurance#nogo
A Lab would cost 50% more than a cross breed to insure and the premiums for a 12 year old dog would be almost 5x a one year old. Ours was 14 at her last renewal.
The point I'm making is when you most need cover is when your dog starts to age and that's when in becomes expensive. So if you're thinking about putting the money aside rather than taking out insurance then consider the costs for the life of the dog not just when it's cheap to insure.
A Lab would cost 50% more than a cross breed to insure and the premiums for a 12 year old dog would be almost 5x a one year old. Ours was 14 at her last renewal.
The point I'm making is when you most need cover is when your dog starts to age and that's when in becomes expensive. So if you're thinking about putting the money aside rather than taking out insurance then consider the costs for the life of the dog not just when it's cheap to insure.
Fair comment, we kept our last dog going for 14 years and towards the end it was pretty expensive.
Eventually it became a quality of life issue and we got him put down.
This one is a VERY mixed breed (4 breeds I know of in the mix) and I do know that mongrels have something like an average 1.2 year extra lifespan over the average of the breeds going into them.
For instance say mongrel had parents with 10 and 12 year average lifespan breeds I would have expected the mongrel offspring to have an average lifslespan of 11 years.
Seems its slightly better and its more like 12.2 or so.
Mind, that assumes mine doesn't get run over when he trashes off chasing a deer...
Just heard on the radio, yet someone else has died from a xl pittie attack. Owner being charged with murder.
Maybe charging the owners with assault or murder is the way to go.
Maybe charging the owners with assault or murder is the way to go.
Dogs don’t murder people for no reason Iff that is the case then a blanket ban all on dogs is necessary
Pretty sure Murder is not the right term. If people are going to comment on legal enforcement and laws maybe good to use an appropriate term.
