Back to basic- how it started?

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Viking

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Oct 1, 2003
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I guess most of you have read Gary´s signature "Back to Basics - bushcraft before brand names". This got me thinking what I did before I knew of the name bushcraft and all the books videos and special kit I did not know I needed.

I guess I started with bushcraft when I was only 5 or 6 years old. The older guys took me with them to the forest to build build shelters as we would call it today. We made some really good lean to´s and other shelters we even made a small village with 3-4 tipis once. Of course we were at war with other kids so we had to make spears, bows and arrows and other things. My father taught me how to make a bow wich wood to use and what to think of while making the bow. If I was to today, it would be a very complicated thing, becasue now I have read a lot on making bows. So instead of making that simple bow I once learned I start to complicate the whole thing

The only tool I had as a young boy was an mora knife, but because they were cheap you often bought a new one and all mates was very impressed by the new knife. But with simple tools like this we learned to cut down pretty large tree´s. We had our own technique that worked really good. We often got cuts in our hands but we never had first aid kit so we always used diffrent leaves as plasters. We did´nt even have waterproofs, so when the rain came we sat under a spruce tree while watching the rain falling down.

This was when I was a little kid, back then I had all the time in the world and we could do alot with very little. Today I have to have a rucksack with me when I am going to the woods, it´s very likely I will have spent a lot of money on the equipment lying in my rucksack and I will not have much time to get out using it all. Maybe it´s time to look back, instead of looking forward to the next piece of kit I must have. Maybe it´s time to read the first book about survival I read. The swedish army survival handbook, this is probably one of the best I have read about the subject, the few bits of kit you have you should be able to use for a lot of things.

What do you think, have we forgotten what bushcraft is all about...?
 

Adi007

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Sep 3, 2003
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Well said Viking!

You make some good points there Viking. It is very easy to forget what bushcraft actually is - getting out and doing it. It's easy to be kit obsessed or focussed on brands or what someone on the telly is using. I know because I can be like that. There is a refreshing simplicity to using simple gear. Simple stuff is generally tough and cheap. A mora costs in the UK £10 while a knife that you might see someone use on the telly cost 20 times that. Will it last 20 times as long? Maybe. Does it cut 20 times better? I doubt it. Is it actually worth 20 times as much? Probably not.

Nothing beats getting out and doing - I know that there is a huge emphasis on gear but all the gear in the world isn't going to help anyone if they don't know how to use it or get out and use it.
 

RovingArcher

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Jun 27, 2004
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Viking, you and I had the same beginnings I think. Except my first blade was an old Marbles stag handled sheath knife with a broken tip that my Dad ground to add another tip and then gave to me. Though, probably not near the slicer of the old Mora you had.

Some very good points made in your post. Have we forgetten what true bushcrafting is all about? I can only speak for me, but yeah, I probably have in some ways. Like many others, I followed the bright lights to the new and improved gear that'd carve that spoon all by itself and I almost bought one of the ultralite self erecting tents. I came to my senses a few years ago when I watched an old 60s movie about some kids out in the hills making a fort from scrounged wood, limbs and twine. Then playing cowboys and indians until the sun went down. Reminded me of my meager beginnings as a bushcrafter some 45 years ago. Of course, we didn't call it anything in particular, we were just having fun and using our imaginations to create not only situations, but the tools we used. I'm still trying to get back to that point.
 

Gary

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Apr 17, 2003
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Well I never!

Viking/Adi you pair have hit the nail on the head there - that is exactly what I mean by back to basics. :You_Rock_

It was the question about which element of bushcraft which got me thinking and I realised that we have started to over complicate 'the craft' we have made it into something it is not and never should be.

IBack to Basics is rapidly becoming my new ethos - so is 'K.I.S.S' - Long live the simple things in life.
 

Stuart

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Sep 12, 2003
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here here :yup:

I'm a self confessed kit freak, but i can remember a time when i was younger where i did all the things i do in the woods today but in a much harsher enviroment and with none of the super expensive kit i carry now.

is it just me or can any of you remember that when you were a kid sleeping on the bare ground outdoors didnt bother you at all, yet now it results in a very uncomfortable night

I must have been a better bushcrafter back then :icon_neut
 

TheViking

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Jun 3, 2004
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Hi...

I think I started being interested in survival, when I was 10-11... That's 5 years ago... At that time I bought the SAS Survival Handbook to learn something. (Though I now think that it is not a very good book) Later on this turned to bushcraft, when I discovered that the word 'survival' makes me think about depression and loneliness (as Gary mentioned in a post about 'Survival/Bushcraft the question')
Right now it's bushcraft and when i make a kit a prefer to call it a bushcraft kit! ;) :biggthump

I'm making a kit at the moment for bushcraft techniques, and when i'm done I will post a thread on it! ;)
 

EdS

Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
With me it started by walking with parents/grandparent and collecting food while out and about.

I'm very fortunate where I live so when I want to "play" with my bushcraft gear I tend to do it at home/on the estate. When I go out I rarely take any kit -a 1" bladed folder that lives on my keyring and a couple of bags for any foods that I find - I go out to be out and soak up the atmosphere/feeling of nature.

This is a deliberate decision as I to am a gear freak and will take a sac full of stuff give half a chance. But them I spend so long messing around I don't always stop and watch the world go by.
 

jamesdevine

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Dec 22, 2003
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During the Course (you are all going to be feed up hearing that) I took a short time ago. There was a moment I experienced what some of you are I think are talking about.

Here it is:

My brother and and I shared a night in the Debris hut we had build earlier in the week. I did the first shift so from about midnigth to 3.30am I slept soundly in the hut and very comfortable in cloths I wore.

When I finally made my way out I stood in the middle of the wood in the half light as the sun was not quite up yet in almost perfect silence. I have the cloths on my back and my knife on my belt.

It was an amazing feeling I was so relaxed and unafraid and I sat there enjoing it until it was time to wake up my brother.

That to me is back to basics and some day I hope to do it for alot longer then a few hours. At present I still need the basic kit but even then my list is getting smaller.

Just my 2cents
James
 

Gary

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Apr 17, 2003
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Some excellent thoughts and memories there - seems we all had a similar experiences or childhoods I remember the first time I got lost in Epping forest (as opposed to now where I do it on perpuse), family picnic - playing war - big forest little boy and with my younger brother in tow - suddnely lost - anyway after I stopped crying I realised I had my pen knife (and in those days it really was I think it was a 1" blade at best) and this gave me great courage so much so that I resolved we'd be ok - me and Mark could hunt rabbits and stuff yep my little knive would do all that! Anyway suddenly the fear was gone and the forest lost its threatening air we walked out eventually stumbling onto a road and as luck would have it my parents drove passed us about five minutes later - my bum was sore for a week after the hiding my mum gave me but that aside the seed with sown and I loved that forest ever since.

Anyway that little knife has long gone to the heaven where little knives are always sharp and gleaming and I have to wonder where did it all change. More importantly why did it? Why do we complicate the uncomplicated and pay through our noses for things we would have more fun and pride in if we made them ourselves!

Oh well .............
 

Adi007

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Sep 3, 2003
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Gary said:
Why do we complicate the uncomplicated and pay through our noses for things we would have more fun and pride in if we made them ourselves!

Oh well .............
Because like most other things in life, commercialisation creeps in and companies make us feel that we have to "buy" the outdoors or "pay and entry fee" to get out. Commercialisation is clever and can lull us into buying gear that we don't want, need, or use. Yes, good gear is great and there is a lot of pleasure to be had from using something well made and safety from using something durable and up to the job. However, out items of gear are just tools that help us, not entry tickets to the outdoors or shortcut to acquiring skills.
 

maddave

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Jan 2, 2004
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My first knife also was a very old wood handled Mora that my dad gave me and it still lives in our camp gear (jules' kitchen kit actually....She stole it !!)
I bought one of the newer Mora's at the outdoor show this year to replace it. HOWEVER!! I do have a Bison Bushcraft knife coming this week as I have never owned a handmade and wanted to own one before I pop my clogs. It is too easy to fall into the pit of commercialism and really as bushcrafters we should be looking the other way. One really impressive thing I've seen this year was Bowdrill Dave's bushcraft knife. He made it himself with the guidance of Green Pete and it's equally as good as a woodlore and is custom fitted to his own grip/style of use. I think Kath has a pic of the Alan Wood, The Bison Bushcraft and Dave's homemade all together...I was very impressed. Something from nothing and yet to buy something like it commercially you wouldn't get much change out of £150.

Sometimes it's nice to step back a tad and see if you really need to buy the latest "Thingumybob" or if you can make, adapt or improvise it from what's available to you
 

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