Amsteel and Woopie Slings etc
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resnikov
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
When you say small how small are you talking? I remember reading on the whoopiesling thread on hammockforums there's a minimum length of bury in a ws to ensure it doesn't slip. It may have been 6" or 8" I can't remember. How long are yours?
Shewie, how much was the spool? Got any spare? I'm thinking of
making a bridge hammock now grizz has made that video series on how to make the grizzbridge. I'm thinking single layer ripstop, no end caps, with the webbing sides replaced with dynaglide up to soft shackles and onto the triangles also in dynaglide. I'll still keep my trusty faded red (pink...) amsteel whoopies tho
Shewie, how much was the spool? Got any spare? I'm thinking of
making a bridge hammock now grizz has made that video series on how to make the grizzbridge. I'm thinking single layer ripstop, no end caps, with the webbing sides replaced with dynaglide up to soft shackles and onto the triangles also in dynaglide. I'll still keep my trusty faded red (pink...) amsteel whoopies tho
Mark 6 inches on the braid and then bury the adjustable side, it will come out at about 5" after splicing.
There's always this ...
[video=youtube;FcifJkhXpMM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcifJkhXpMM[/video]
Dang that's a lot cheaper than I've seen elsewhere!
You guys can also make 'triangle thingies' as they're known, out of amsteel. They're used to help keep the corners of your uq up, you attach each side to a point, with the triangle over the end of the hammock (over your ridgeline) and the third point connects to your suspension. It's an interesting splice with amsteel.
You could make UCRs as well, as am alternative to a whoopie sling. I've wanted to pick up some thicker gauge amsteel to make a belt (lol) and a guitar strap. A light acoustic is comfortable with the thinner cord, and an adjustable amsteel strap has that geeky cool factor !
Mountainm, how long is your srl? The short whoopies must add another 2 foot or so, no? I remember when I changedfrom a dd with webbing suspension to a diy (1/2m longer) with continuous loops and whoopies I had problems at first with some regular hang spots as the trees were now too close for the longer oal of my hammock.
You guys can also make 'triangle thingies' as they're known, out of amsteel. They're used to help keep the corners of your uq up, you attach each side to a point, with the triangle over the end of the hammock (over your ridgeline) and the third point connects to your suspension. It's an interesting splice with amsteel.
You could make UCRs as well, as am alternative to a whoopie sling. I've wanted to pick up some thicker gauge amsteel to make a belt (lol) and a guitar strap. A light acoustic is comfortable with the thinner cord, and an adjustable amsteel strap has that geeky cool factor !
Mountainm, how long is your srl? The short whoopies must add another 2 foot or so, no? I remember when I changedfrom a dd with webbing suspension to a diy (1/2m longer) with continuous loops and whoopies I had problems at first with some regular hang spots as the trees were now too close for the longer oal of my hammock.
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The small whoopies add about a foot and 2/3rds to the length of my hammock. My SRL at max is the same length as this (hammock+ whoopies), then goes down to less than half - my SRL is also a whoopie don't forget as I've yet to settle on my perfect hang. My issue has always been ending up with trees that are too far apart. Never had a problem with them being too close together - but if they are I have the option of ditching the SRL and attaching direct to the small whoopies. This gives me options.
Don't get me wrong this is an experiment. That's why I bought more amsteel than I really needed - so I could experiment. I thought that's what other peeps were doing, but perhaps not? At the end of the day if it doesn't work then I'd have probably made the same configurations of whoopies anyway.
I'm hoping it's a very quick set up, with easy config. All the bits are made now so I just need to sneak out at some point and try it out.
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There's always this ...
[video=youtube;FcifJkhXpMM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcifJkhXpMM[/video]
That is amazing stuff, very impressive strength huh!
This might also help
http://www.samsonrope.com/site_files/12-Strand_AmSteel-Blue_Whoopie_Sling_Splice_2008.pdf
Or just look in the samsonrope site
http://www.samsonrope.com/site_files/12-Strand_AmSteel-Blue_Whoopie_Sling_Splice_2008.pdf
Or just look in the samsonrope site
Well very kindly, Resnikov dropped off my amsteel from the group buy, in the form of 2 fantastic woopie slings and other bits for the hammock..... he is far more patient than me, and the finish is fantastic! Pics will follow!
Can I have some help folks please! I am in the process of making two whoopie slings , so far I have to fixed eyes I now seem to be struggling with the whoopie bit. Question - when I am doing it there seems to be a core in the middle like a copper colour , I thought it was hollow as this sometimes seems to pull out when threading, does this matter as this internal threads are the problem as they gather and prevent the bury being pulled through. I have changed from using a darning needle to a piece of thin wire this should make it easier.
resnikov
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
I have been told the core can be removed with out any issues (i hope so I did on some of the amsteel I bought).
Its a pain to do but can be done.
Its a pain to do but can be done.
Noooo don't remove that bit, its samsons hair the magic ingredient that gives it the strength.
The tip I will offer is use single folded wire such as 1.5 earth strand folded in half, (already used by some) feed that through your amsteel in the direction you need to pull your trailing end.
Then wrap sellotape around the last 2" or 3" of amsteel very tight in a spiral so it continues off the end and twist it tight for about an inch maybe 2. Then pass this through your wire so it makes the amsteel sit tight to the end of the wire fold/ loop, now fold the twisted sellotape back onto the amsteel.
Pull / feed it through, it makes the end your pulling through far more stream lined and the sellotape is smoothe so passes quite easy.
Hope that makes sence, if not guess I will be taking pic's to explain.
Then wrap sellotape around the last 2" or 3" of amsteel very tight in a spiral so it continues off the end and twist it tight for about an inch maybe 2. Then pass this through your wire so it makes the amsteel sit tight to the end of the wire fold/ loop, now fold the twisted sellotape back onto the amsteel.
Pull / feed it through, it makes the end your pulling through far more stream lined and the sellotape is smoothe so passes quite easy.
Hope that makes sence, if not guess I will be taking pic's to explain.
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