cheers grebby, it didnt matter in the end 
just tested out my new whoopies and they worked a treat!
just tested out my new whoopies and they worked a treat!Amsteel and Woopie Slings etc
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resnikov
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
Found my darning needle wasnt very good with the amsteel. It did work well with some dynemma I use before.
Had a look around my house for something to use and struck upon the idea of using a single core from a cat5 cable.
Took about 1 meter of cat5 and opened it up and got rid of the out sheath. The unbundled the 4 twisted pairs, then unbundled on the twisted pairs.
Then took the single core and folded it in half. I put a piece of electrical tape around the folded end about 1 cm from the top of it. This has worked surprisingly well.
Had a look around my house for something to use and struck upon the idea of using a single core from a cat5 cable.
Took about 1 meter of cat5 and opened it up and got rid of the out sheath. The unbundled the 4 twisted pairs, then unbundled on the twisted pairs.
Then took the single core and folded it in half. I put a piece of electrical tape around the folded end about 1 cm from the top of it. This has worked surprisingly well.
It is I reckon. Will bring a piece of the original to our lab and get them to look at it!
I wonder if the dye should've been added at point of fibre manufacture - and they've cut corners and tried to dye it afterwords?
so i've got 4 whoopies and i'm going to do a couple of soft shackles. what else can i use the rest for people? any other bushcrafty applications?
resnikov
Bushcrafter (boy, I've got a lot to say!)
You can make some continuous loops. I use them through the channel on my DD frontline. You can make smaller whoopies to use on your tarp.
I did wonder about splicing up a daisy chain.... a series of loops on one long line- and use it as a "pack small" loop ladder.
Resnikovs tip is a good , thanks- the cat 5 wire works a treat, saved me a load of hassle tonight. I didn't tape it though - Yesterday I had a nightmare as some tape came off and got wedged in the bury. worked fine without.
To sum up
Fixed eye tute (locked brummel):
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13328
whoopie tute:
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=9349
Soft shackel tute:
http://l-36.com/soft_shackle_howto.php
To sum up
Fixed eye tute (locked brummel):
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13328
whoopie tute:
http://www.hammockforums.net/forum/showthread.php?t=9349
Soft shackel tute:
http://l-36.com/soft_shackle_howto.php
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OK I've got 2 more whoopies to make and 2 more soft shackles (hopfully get them sorted tonight). This diagram illustrates what I'm trying to do.
Blue - Short whoopies
Red - Long whoopie SRL
Green - Medium whoopies to tree huggers
Blobs - Soft shackles
With the blue whoopies I can adjust ground clearance, head height and foot height (compensating with the red whoopie)
With the green whoopies I can choose where between the trees I want to be situated (avoiding a puddle, clump of thistles etc. Theoretically I don't need to be in the centre with a SRL)
With the red whoopie I can adjust the hang of the hammock (using the green & blue whoopies to compensate)
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Bear in mind that to loosen a whoopie sling you need to have some slack so you can push the bury point if that makes sense. I'm not sure that you could undo the structural ridge line once tight??
Looks Good Mike, been busy hey?
Certainly have.
I see what you mean - once tight I may have trouble getting the damn thing down again - perhaps I need to work some sort of slacking system into the tree huggers. Bugger. Any ideas?
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No I get you. Not sure the short adjustable lengths attached to the ends of the hammocks but before the ridgeline are needed. Surely with the minimum bury length required for the whoopieslings must make the minimum tree distance larger, and mean you have to place your straps higher to achieve the same angles a shorter oal hammock.
If they're there just to adjust hammock height you can achieve the same by raising the straps on the trees once youve got the angles you want.
Post a pic when you next set it up! Let me see the merits of 'double adjustivity'
You can also make a continuous loop lanyard if you're that way inclined.
Maybe we should try and organise a group buy of dynaglide. Amsteel is overkill for structural ridgelines, and the thinner cord is awesome for soft shackles for your tarp.
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I find raising the straps quite a time consuming and fiddly process once all is in place. But the blue whoopies are also their to give a bit of headroom between hammock and SRL - so you can put the mosinet up etc.
I'm with HB on the small whoopies, I think you've found a solution for a problem that doesn't really exist. I think there's temptation to tweak a bit too much when you've got 200ft of Amsteel to use up, I know I have
I picked up a spool of Arborist throw line on ebay which is nice stuff, I like it so much I ended up using it for guys as well on my Ogee
I need to dig out my BB tonight and see how Brandon does his ridgeline, I'm pretty sure is fairly simple, fixed at one length to give the most comfortable hang possible. You know if it's too slack or too tight and can adjust as necessary.
If you aim to get that magic 30deg angle for a start, with a fixed ridgeline you can then shorten or lengthen the whoopies to take up any slack or give some release. If the trees are wider than about five paces I know I have to reach higher up with the straps, if it's a tight squeeze between the trees then I know it's going to be low and quite taught.
I picked up a spool of Arborist throw line on ebay which is nice stuff, I like it so much I ended up using it for guys as well on my Ogee
I need to dig out my BB tonight and see how Brandon does his ridgeline, I'm pretty sure is fairly simple, fixed at one length to give the most comfortable hang possible. You know if it's too slack or too tight and can adjust as necessary.
If you aim to get that magic 30deg angle for a start, with a fixed ridgeline you can then shorten or lengthen the whoopies to take up any slack or give some release. If the trees are wider than about five paces I know I have to reach higher up with the straps, if it's a tight squeeze between the trees then I know it's going to be low and quite taught.
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I appreciate what your trying to achieve, but looks too complicated to me, (just my opinion) but then I'm a self confessed noob, I just use (as shug's utube videos demonstrate) tree huggers, marlin spike hitch with doweling toggle, whoopie's its got all the adjustment I need, no risk of not being able to undo.
I used the ring's method on another build and did get caught out not being able to get slack to release them. lesson learn'd.
I used the ring's method on another build and did get caught out not being able to get slack to release them. lesson learn'd.
I'm with HB on the small whoopies, I think you've found a solution for a problem that doesn't really exist. I think there's temptation to tweak a bit too much when you've got 200ft of Amsteel to use up, I know I have
only one way to find out.... for the sake of making two small whoopies I thought it was worth the experiment.
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