They don't intend to stop any such thing.
They intend to be seen to 'do something', always the way with Governments I'm afraid.
They intend to be seen to 'do something', always the way with Governments I'm afraid.
A ban on online knife sales...
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Please go back to the store and advise the manager that saftey razors (blade permentantly encased in it's holder with less than 2mm of blade protruding) are exempt from age restriction.
And here we have the entire situation in a nutshell.
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and their brothers in arms, bricks.
All items that are age controlled (knives, alcohol, aerosols, some medicines, etc) are coded to flag to the till operator that ID needs to be provided. If you don't provide ID, you don't get the sale - I've seen it happen in Tescos. It is an automated process that removes human error - so Tesco won't get fined/sued. It's their perogative; if we don't like, we shop elsewhere but any major supermarket will now use the same type of system.
There's little point in lecturing the till operator: they have no power to change anything (write to the board or customer relations (used to be 'customer complaints', didn't it?)), they can't help it (automated system), and, frankly, they don't care (what do you reckon the till girl said to her mates in the staff room about the plonker who tried to lecture her on knife use?).
Are we at 42 pages yet?
they have that at poundland. it doesn't work, the cashier just crossed the warning off.
as I was 16 at the time, buying lighters was technicaly illegal (although I don't think blacks even have the warning, and I was 15 when they sold me one)
The till-prompts for age restricted sales doesn't remove any liability, it is strictly a nudge to remind people to ask for ID. I work in a newsagents, and if I sell cigarettes or fireworks (when it's that time of year) to someone underage and get caught, I am held personally responsible but the shop gets a fine too, IIRC. I really do hate IDing people, especially since I always think people are younger than they are; it's a bit embarassing asking someone for ID for cigarettes and finding that they're 29, when I'm only 20 myself...
Is there any way at all to distinguish from a Credit card, debit card or prepay card? Seems to me that the most reliable way of checking age was to do a credit card check. Yes, someone could use someone elses card but I don't see how the seller could be held responsible for that. If you can't distinguish though, then that obviously wouldn't work...
IMO, the blame is at the feet of the government; there isn't a reliable small-scale method of proving age over the internet that I am aware of. I mean, passports and drivers licenses are all well and good in person but I daresay it would be much easier to fake a scan of a passport than fake a passport. Therefore, they should form a nice big circle and give each other a kick in the posterior for complaining about people not upholding a law that has, as of yet, no realistic and foolproof means of being upheld. Introduce a decent way of verifying age that doesn't involve meeting face to face or giving the government your DNA and fingerprints, and if people don't use it, then complain.
Is there any way at all to distinguish from a Credit card, debit card or prepay card? Seems to me that the most reliable way of checking age was to do a credit card check. Yes, someone could use someone elses card but I don't see how the seller could be held responsible for that. If you can't distinguish though, then that obviously wouldn't work...
IMO, the blame is at the feet of the government; there isn't a reliable small-scale method of proving age over the internet that I am aware of. I mean, passports and drivers licenses are all well and good in person but I daresay it would be much easier to fake a scan of a passport than fake a passport. Therefore, they should form a nice big circle and give each other a kick in the posterior for complaining about people not upholding a law that has, as of yet, no realistic and foolproof means of being upheld. Introduce a decent way of verifying age that doesn't involve meeting face to face or giving the government your DNA and fingerprints, and if people don't use it, then complain.
No, there is no way of telling the difference between a regular credit card and a prepay. At the moment though only Mastercards are available prepay.
