really like your thinking, very poitive.............a knife market on BCUK would be superb
eBay bans sale of all knives....
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really like your thinking, very poitive.............a knife market on BCUK would be superb
Tengu - I was thinking the same...
...I've never bought a knife on ebay but I would most certainly write a "strongly worded letter" to communicate my disgust at their reaction to this.
If the hundreds to thousands of people who will object to this wrote a letter there's a chance, all be it a slim one, that there might be a positive move.
To be honest, the more this kind of thing happens, the more I think the American organisations like the NRA have the right idea - no compromise - no retreat on any point - fight every ban, every media lie and every kneejerk, tooth an nail to show that there are literally millions of legitimate knife users (and probably millions of knife carriers) who would never hurt a soul with their blade and that they will not stand for being marginalised and alienated by these stupid feeding frenzies and bans.
I used to agree to some extent with the "just keep quiet" approach, but the gun owners did much the same for a while and they lost it.
Government is a near-unstoppable freight train that can only impose its will by criminalising previously legitimate activities, liberty is a leaky boat which needs constant bailing. (there's a famous quote to this effect)
I honestly think that if we don't start fighthing this constant attack on the millions of law abiding people who use knives safely and responsibly on a daily basis - we'll lose VERY soon - that will be absolutely tragic and we really should NOT be standing by and doing nothing while hoping it'll all be ok.
...I've never bought a knife on ebay but I would most certainly write a "strongly worded letter" to communicate my disgust at their reaction to this.
If the hundreds to thousands of people who will object to this wrote a letter there's a chance, all be it a slim one, that there might be a positive move.
To be honest, the more this kind of thing happens, the more I think the American organisations like the NRA have the right idea - no compromise - no retreat on any point - fight every ban, every media lie and every kneejerk, tooth an nail to show that there are literally millions of legitimate knife users (and probably millions of knife carriers) who would never hurt a soul with their blade and that they will not stand for being marginalised and alienated by these stupid feeding frenzies and bans.
I used to agree to some extent with the "just keep quiet" approach, but the gun owners did much the same for a while and they lost it.
Government is a near-unstoppable freight train that can only impose its will by criminalising previously legitimate activities, liberty is a leaky boat which needs constant bailing. (there's a famous quote to this effect)
I honestly think that if we don't start fighthing this constant attack on the millions of law abiding people who use knives safely and responsibly on a daily basis - we'll lose VERY soon - that will be absolutely tragic and we really should NOT be standing by and doing nothing while hoping it'll all be ok.
Barney - if only it was as simple as that.
This is a symptom, not the problem.
First ebay, next it'll be something else. This is part of the constant march against liberty and the alienation of the law abiding. We can just move on (and I don't use ebay much to start with, and never for knives) but where to? Eventually that avenue will come under attack too.
It's got to stop somewhere.
This is a symptom, not the problem.
First ebay, next it'll be something else. This is part of the constant march against liberty and the alienation of the law abiding. We can just move on (and I don't use ebay much to start with, and never for knives) but where to? Eventually that avenue will come under attack too.
It's got to stop somewhere.
Just been on the 'evil bay' lots of listings for knives of all sorts, some legal and some not so.
My understanding was that they were going to stop the sale of illegal knives to UK buyers from offshore sellers.
If they have banned the sale is it so terrible, there are lots of people out there who sell knives that are not on the bay, buy from them.
Getting over excited and ranting will get you classified as a danger to the public in this day and age.
I suspect that the PC brigade will be the death of us all
My understanding was that they were going to stop the sale of illegal knives to UK buyers from offshore sellers.
If they have banned the sale is it so terrible, there are lots of people out there who sell knives that are not on the bay, buy from them.
Getting over excited and ranting will get you classified as a danger to the public in this day and age.
I suspect that the PC brigade will be the death of us all
I suspect that sooner or later the PC brigade and the journalists and politicians who pander to them will get wise about what they are owed and ban piano wire to save their own skin!
Before long, being in posession of a sharp whit will be an offence! (thankfully, something I've never been accused of
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Kev
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Kev
What has the western world come to, when a man can not carry a trusted knife? To think such things were expected of men and would never have been thought to become illegal. Sad state of affairs indeed...
"Getting over excited and ranting will get you classified as a danger to the public in this day and age."
Thats a good reason for everyone with an interest to voice their opinions. Letting big government silence you because you don't agree with them is a slippery slope to nowhere.
Remember all the "Better red than dead" brigade. they would have been the first to go. Those that stood up for what they believed in are still around.
Sorry for the rambling rant but hate to see this kind of idiocy forced down our throats
Jon R.
Thats a good reason for everyone with an interest to voice their opinions. Letting big government silence you because you don't agree with them is a slippery slope to nowhere.
Remember all the "Better red than dead" brigade. they would have been the first to go. Those that stood up for what they believed in are still around.
Sorry for the rambling rant but hate to see this kind of idiocy forced down our throats
Jon R.
I have bought knives of e:bay. Pre the crunch.
When the price is the same in pounds, as dollars, and one pound is two dollars it was worth it.
A lot of the sellers I used to deal with are not there anymore.
It is all well, and good to say buy from the UK, but what if no one sells in the UK?
Any one got a good place for cold steel, and CRKT?
Also is this going to effect Billhooks, 30 seconds in front of computer or endless car boots.
When the price is the same in pounds, as dollars, and one pound is two dollars it was worth it.
A lot of the sellers I used to deal with are not there anymore.
It is all well, and good to say buy from the UK, but what if no one sells in the UK?
Any one got a good place for cold steel, and CRKT?
Also is this going to effect Billhooks, 30 seconds in front of computer or endless car boots.
Instead of posting here and preaching to the choir you should be writing to ebay, watchdog and you MP's.
"quick, there's a bandwagon" said the Ebay director's..."let's jump on it, far easier than writing a script or policing our own website".
Like so many things these days, it's the law abiding, run of the mill population that get hit every time.
I've bought a knife on ebay from the states yonks ago...a SOG seal pup, and that was after ages looking at the pro's and con's of the best knives on the market. The bonus for me is that it is initially a dive knife that is equally suited to the land.
Now there is no way (not that I would anyway you understand!) I would sully the blade on a "yoof" or waste the money getting it confiscated by carrying it in public. It costs too much anyway. From all these wunderbar police programmes on tv these days, most of the knife attacks are conducted with kitchen knives anyway.
I agree that ebay needed to do something, as, let's be honest no one needs a flick knife and unless you happen to be doing bushcraft in an airport, or planning on solving the corrupt MP's and Lords in Parliament all on your lonesome, there's no need for a plastic knife (unless you're a collector etc!!)
I for one will make a quick trawl of ebay later, as I (waits for the he's a girly gay comments...will I get told off that that remark??) wouldn't mind getting a tiffany swiss army knife!
Anyway from what I can work out Ebay have been alienating a lot of people anyway, so I await the rise of another auction monster in its place.
Like so many things these days, it's the law abiding, run of the mill population that get hit every time.
I've bought a knife on ebay from the states yonks ago...a SOG seal pup, and that was after ages looking at the pro's and con's of the best knives on the market. The bonus for me is that it is initially a dive knife that is equally suited to the land.
Now there is no way (not that I would anyway you understand!) I would sully the blade on a "yoof" or waste the money getting it confiscated by carrying it in public. It costs too much anyway. From all these wunderbar police programmes on tv these days, most of the knife attacks are conducted with kitchen knives anyway.
I agree that ebay needed to do something, as, let's be honest no one needs a flick knife and unless you happen to be doing bushcraft in an airport, or planning on solving the corrupt MP's and Lords in Parliament all on your lonesome, there's no need for a plastic knife (unless you're a collector etc!!)
I for one will make a quick trawl of ebay later, as I (waits for the he's a girly gay comments...will I get told off that that remark??) wouldn't mind getting a tiffany swiss army knife!
Anyway from what I can work out Ebay have been alienating a lot of people anyway, so I await the rise of another auction monster in its place.
I bet what has happened is what happens to the market stall here who sells army surplus and `collectors metalware` (ahem)
He gets troublemakers comming in regularly and telling him he shouldnt be selling such items, they are illegal.
So he tells them "sure, I have these openly on display as they are illegal, the police know all about me, as my main shop sells air rifles."
He gets troublemakers comming in regularly and telling him he shouldnt be selling such items, they are illegal.
So he tells them "sure, I have these openly on display as they are illegal, the police know all about me, as my main shop sells air rifles."
So - has anyone else written an actual letter or email yet?
I'm doing mine when I finish work.
One to ebay and one to MP (who's a complete numpty but I'll do it anyway).
Not see the watchdog show and so I'll not bother until I have,
I'm doing mine when I finish work.
One to ebay and one to MP (who's a complete numpty but I'll do it anyway).
Not see the watchdog show and so I'll not bother until I have,
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