Tentipi Problem

[littlebiglane]

Although I will be doing a review shortly I thought I would let Tentipi owners be aware of what I feel is a 'safety' issue for the Tentipi. I will be letting Tentipi know too.

Camping in conditions that resulted in Force 6-7 with regular gusts to Force 8 for three days/nights saw the peg rings attached to the tension straps fail one by one over the three days. Whilst I understand that the rings MIGHT be designed to fail to prevent fabric tear (although I doubt this) have the these rather poorly cast (rather than properly forged) rings fail in the middle of the night in a gale can put undue strain on the other storm cords and tensioners resulting a a chain of failure. I did find myself standing in torrential rain, high winds and in total darkness wrestling with trying to re-secure the tent which was acting like a massive sail in the wind. The next available day I went and spent £30 on proper forged d-rings (for each of the 8 corners) from a yacht chandler that secures the mainstay of yacht masts.

Picture of one of the rings below and a replacement.

 

[Paganwolf]

Thats happened to me too, i used para cord loops and peg rubbers on mine, that looks like a good idea too, ill look for those, nice one.

 

[Scots_Charles_River]

Why don't you contact the manufacturer, let tem know the details they may know the fault and send you replacements ?

Nick

 

[littlebiglane]

Why don't you contact the manufacturer, let tem know the details they may know the fault and send you replacements ?

Nick

I will be contacting them. I wish it was as simple as sending replacement parts but the rings are continuous metal and were stitched onto the tension straps therefore sending the rings would not solve me being able to reattach them. I think they are too weak anyway and would not be interested in like-for-like replacement. The d-rings I have now are much stronger and because they are easily attached can be replaced.

Thanks

LBL

 

[Scots_Charles_River]

They may send some that snap on and have a split to slide over the nylon tape. They may even offer to re-stitch them !

Certainly worth a try.

Nick

 

[preacherman]

I'd say that Tentipi would like to hear the feedback about this problem. In my dealings with Nordic Outdoor where I bought mine I brought a tiny problem with my tipi to their attention and everything was sorted immediatly.

 

[Rob]

I think they would like the feedback too - I would watch the lugs on the d-rings though, especially if you havent got a canvass model.

 

[littlebiglane]

I think they would like the feedback too - I would watch the lugs on the d-rings though, especially if you havent got a canvass model.

why would I have to watch the lugs on the d-shackles? They have a safe working load of 1300 kgs each (that's 15 of me hanging from it)...

http://www.s3i.co.uk/shackles.php

 

[antwerpman]

amazed to read this. A couple of years ago I was camping with my varrie 9 in Ireland and had a storm up to force 8-9. No problems with those rings. But mine seem to be of a different make than those on your picture

 

[spamel]

why would I have to watch the lugs on the d-shackles? They have a safe working load of 1300 kgs each (that's 15 of me hanging from it)...

http://www.s3i.co.uk/shackles.php

Possible wear on the tentage when packed away I'd assume. It would be minimal, and they can be taken off no problem so not really much to worry about. They're much better than the original IMO. Nice bit of pimping!

 

[littlebiglane]

For everyone''s information here is the response by Tentipi:



"Dear Mark,

Thank you for your report.
There has been various quality on one batch of rings.
We are beware of this problem and we have already stopped all production with this rings.

We are working on a solution for the customers that have your kind of problem.
Your solution is really smooth and interesting and I want to thank you for the tip.


Med Vänlig Hälsning/ Best Regards
Konrad Persson
Product & Quality Manager"

 

[Scots_Charles_River]

Re-looking at the pic and remembering my Martensites and Austensites, crystal growths etc from Uni lectures, it looks like a 'brittle failure' ie material fault rather than a 'fatigue' failure.

I would investigate popping into a sailing chandlers and browsing their rings etc.

Nick

 

[spamel]

Re-looking at the pic and remembering my Martensites and Austensites, crystal growths etc from Uni lectures, it looks like a 'brittle failure' ie material fault rather than a 'fatigue' failure.

I would investigate popping into a sailing chandlers and browsing their rings etc.

Nick

Fnarr! Fnarr!

 

[Wayland]

That is why I always carry some spare spring steel split rings in my response pack.

Cheap as chips, very strong and easy to fit on most things.

 

[Scots_Charles_River]

Fnarr! Fnarr!

There are better rings to replace the shackles that he has chosen. Possibilty of the shackle pins working loose.

Nick

 

[littlebiglane]

There are better rings to replace the shackles that he has chosen. Possibilty of the shackle pins working loose.

Nick

True, true, the pins could work lose. You could/should chose socket or shake proof pins - like the options here http://www.s3i.co.uk/shackleD.php

However - at the time - when I needed rings/shackles then these were the only ones available in the local chandler in the town I was camping near.

 

[littlebiglane]

That is why I always carry some spare spring steel split rings in my response pack.

Cheap as chips, very strong and easy to fit on most things.

Your split rings would have to be very strong. The amount of force exerted on these rings when under high winds is quite considerable - I was surprised. What are the dimensions of your split ring?

(fnarrs aside )

 

[Wayland]

Take a look at an average key ring.

Because the solid part of the ring goes round twice they are surprisingly strong and easy to source too.

 

[Bimble]

Why don't they just get rid of the rings altogether and just have webbing loops ?

Seems odd to have them in the first place. I don't own a tenttipi, I like the look of them, but they are v.expensive and wiff a little of knobs and whistles with their 'features' for me.

I have heard a few people complain about them now, is it 'cus there so expensive that you expect them never to break, I know I would, or is it 'cus there just not that well made?

Someone enlighten me......

 

[spamel]

Webbing loops would be the simple answer. I've had no problems with them on my Hex 3 so far. If it was to break, a bit of sewing and you have another loop. Easy.