Using a traditional flint and steel

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Next one in my fire starting master class! :rolleyes: Flint an steel, using charcloth. Also, some birch bark spills that are quite handy! I'll let you watch the videos, any questions, feel free to ask.



 
Nice one Spam - have you ever used any other tinder apart from charcloth with flint and steel? I only ask because I've only ever had success with charcloth using this method.

Small Idea - have you thought about grouping all of your demo's into a mini feature and maybe making a DVD? or a longer download? Could be a modest market for it.
 
I have had limited success with what I thought was Horses Hoof, but turns out it was a similar fungus. The thing with The Hoof is that it has a ridiculous process to make it work, boil in wood ash and water for 24 hours, then dry and pound, then simmer for another 24 hours in the urine of a virgin under a full moon, etc!

Can't be bothered with all that! Old pair of jeans, cut a piece of and roll it up, pop it into a copper pipe crimped at one end and ram the open end into the earth to plug the end with soil. Chuck on fire and crack another tinny, by the time you finished the beer the charcloth is done. Leave it in the pipe until it cools down and then put it in a container until ready to use. Too simple! I was trying buffed up birch bark yesterday, but the sparks just aren't hot enough.

As for a DVD, I reckon if I could use a proper digi camera, the quality would be a lot better. I may do the spills with photos which could end up on the site, or in the mag if Tony is interested. I like fire!
 
I have had limited success with what I thought was Horses Hoof, but turns out it was a similar fungus. The thing with The Hoof is that it has a ridiculous process to make it work, boil in wood ash and water for 24 hours, then dry and pound, then simmer for another 24 hours in the urine of a virgin under a full moon, etc!

Nah... It may take a lot of prep to get it to work with flint and pyrite, but for flint and steel an hour or two's boil with ash seems to do the trick.

It's peeling the damn stuff that takes the time! ;)
 
does anyone else find that the black looking flint works better with traditional steel than other flints why is this ? maybe its just me :werd:

The English gray/black flint does work very well. But personally I prefer the rootbeer colored flint from Knife River Montana. But I've also had very good luck with white flint from Missouri, light gray Texas chert, and even some of the flint/chert from the limestone cliffs here in NE Iowa.

This last year I've been playing around with some of that white Missouri flint, and I am very impressed. The grain structure does make it harder to knapp to shape, but I can get some pretty sharp edges, and they hold up very well in use. A friend is now knapping them into gunflints for use in flintlock rifles and muskets. They take a little more finish work to shape, but are holding up just as well as the English gray and French amber gun flints.

The key point is how thin/sharp of an edge you can get on the flint, and how well that edge holds up in use. The flint itself does not spark. And you can also use things like granite, slate, quartz, jasper, agate, etc. Any rock that you can get a sharp edge on. You can just get a thinner/sharper/harder edge on flint. The edges on the other rocks tend to be coarser, less sharp, and crumble faster in use. And obsidian is just too fragile to work well. It is just like trying to use glass, and crumbles almost immediately.

Flint is just a hard/sharp edge used to chip/dig out little bits of steel from your striker. The energy put into chipping/digging out those little bits of steel heats them up enough that the carbon burns That's the sparks you see.

Just my humble thoughts to share. Take them as such.

Mikey - that grumpy ol' blacksmith out in the Hinterlands
 

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