pee in a bottle

[ArkAngel]

Is this the Prostrate Problems Support group?
Errrrrrr, whats up with going for a slash before turning in for the night and then again when you wake up in the morning

Admittedly, if I have had a bit to drink I can be woken up by my bladder but its never that early that its a problem.

I could get my head round doing it if I was half way up shishipangma while a blizzard raged but while practicing herbacious bordercraft/camping in the lakes it's just a bit manky.
Besides I am fooked if I can be bothered to carry yet another bottle about just incase I need to go in the night, I would rather have a quick walk.

Have to admit i don't camp out much these days, mostly at festivals were copious amounts of alcohol is consumed
I do have a medical excuse in my case, although i am a fit 33 year old thanks to my parents i have inherited high blood pressure from them (when first diagnosed it was 240/155 ) the tablets i am on for it do expell water from the body so giving me a bladder like swiss cheese

PS......a note from my mum can be provided on request

 

[walker]

i thonk you all will find that when the temp drops below freezing it has a afect on your nervious system in a way that makes you urinate more sometimes up to or over 1 ltr during the night and at minus 10 to minus 20 your not gonna want to let yuor sleeping bag go cold while your freezing your bits of having a pee up a tree
so peeing in a bottle is the best way to stay warm

 

[FGYT]

do you Cr@p into Cling film as well

 

[John Fenna]

Sandwich bags are better after a curry?
Too much info - I will now avoid this thread!
John

 

[Voivode]

do you Cr@p into Cling film as well

Leave No Trace backcountry ethics advises crapping into a container to pack it out if there is no suitable place to do your business where it will decompose and, well, leave no trace. Above the treeline in the alpine, for example.

 

[Geuf]

hmm. thats a questionable thing.
I understand that you don't want to leave a trace. But after a three day track with a bag full of crap. You do NOT want the bubble to burst.

 

[Mikey P]

Good tip, or just nasty nasty?
It works for me anyway!

It's actually an alpine or big wall trick - the p*ss bottle is a CLEARLY marked container (usually a nalgene or similar so it doesn't get crushed). Fill it over night, empty it in the morning. Saves those midnight wanders in the cold!

I think it's an excellent idea as long as you are clear on which bottles which. Mind you, I reckon it tastes like nettle tea anyway...

 

[Voivode]

hmm. thats a questionable thing.
I understand that you don't want to leave a trace. But after a three day track with a bag full of crap. You do NOT want the bubble to burst.

Indeed. They recommend making a poop-tube out of pvc pipe. Threaded cap at one end, sealed at the other and you're good to go. I've never done it, and don't plan on it.

But we're starting to wander from the #1 (ahem) topic at hand.

 

[demographic]

i thonk you all will find that when the temp drops below freezing it has a afect on your nervious system in a way that makes you urinate more sometimes up to or over 1 ltr during the night and at minus 10 to minus 20 your not gonna want to let yuor sleeping bag go cold while your freezing your bits of having a pee up a tree
so peeing in a bottle is the best way to stay warm

Yeah, like I said, lakes in the UK and herbacious bordercraft/camping.

Minus 20 it isn't

 

[dommyracer]

What do they do, when the Gs try to push other things out?

Nappies.....

 

[Roy's Badger]

Before the thread is quarantined for questionable interest in no 1s & 2s , thought I'd just add my two-penneth on the subject. We had a visit by His Ray-al Highness, where he gave a talk on Telemark, then a dedicated lecture on Arctic (where we were headed). The man Himself advocated the ole bottle trick, then using it as a heater... a few weeks later, whilst out on the Haardanger, I used the technique myself (unzipped the bag a bit to give myself room to manouevre, wide mouth bottle etc) at minus 20, and it definitely worked. It was preferable to another time when I wasn't as well equipped in Bavaria, and had to get out of my hammock (which I was stupidly trialling at minus 16) to relieve myself.

And no, I can't remember what he was wearing/where he got his haircut/whether it was a badger or an otter on his pants....

 

[gregorach]

Yeah, I can see the sense in it for arctic conditions, but not otherwise... I just don't find it that big a deal to get up in any conditions I'd want to be camping in anyway (not being one for snow and ice).

 

[markw]

Any one familiar with the old Spartan CVRT and its 'Berisford Bladder'

Mark

 

[Eric_Methven]

Yeah, I can see the sense in it for arctic conditions, but not otherwise... I just don't find it that big a deal to get up in any conditions I'd want to be camping in anyway (not being one for snow and ice).

You wait till you hit your fifties mate. First the hair turns grey, then you lose your teeth, then you lose bladder control....

Eric

 

[gregorach]

Not completely I hope...

 

[Nikolai]

Sounds like an accident waiting to happen lads! I reckon the idea of trying not to "spill" whilst half awake in the confines of a kip sack is a brave one. Then having to remember what the drinks bottle is like too!!! Dodgy.

I have a resolution! 1: Is it Warm? 2: Is it yellow? (if dehydrated a little) and 3: Does it smell?? Either that or just keep it in a corner lol.

I have done this a few times, an Oasis bottle is a VERY good friend while out and about!

 

[torjusg]

Is all the appearant incontinence problems on this board caused by getting too little of the good stuff?

 

[Glen]

Indeed. They recommend making a poop-tube out of pvc pipe. Threaded cap at one end, sealed at the other and you're good to go. I've never done it, and don't plan on it.

But we're starting to wander from the #1 (ahem) topic at hand.

I'd recommend anyone thinking of doing this keep a small sealing plastic back in the tube.

Back in my days of pharmaceutical testing for hospitals feaces were collected in plastic screw top tubs, about the size of a 1lt paint tin. Inside the tub was a plastic back, similar to a sandwich bag, for use the bag is opened up and pulled over the outside rim of the tub. When the business is done the plastic bag is sealed and tucked back into tub and lid screwed back on tight.
Minimum fuss and cleaning of the tub afterwards as nothing except the plastic bag actually touches it, unless the bag bursts, which was very rare given it's protected by the tub.

For urine colection ( usually 24 hours worth ) a 1 gallon, handled, plastic container was used ( not unlike a motor oil container ) the handle does make things easier.

Most of the subject that used the systems for the first time were a little apprehensive and had similar views to some of the "that's unhygenic" posts on this thread, however after a few days they had no quals at all about the uring collections, many even admitting to now keeping a similar urine container at home for times when the bathroom was otherwise occupied.

Given that everytime one flushes the toilet tiny droplets of water are expelled into the air and breathed in, it's kind strange to think that some people consider urinating into a bottle unhygenic but will happily flush the toilet with the lid open.

Having used both several times I've no problem using a nalgene type bottle for middle of the night bladder emptying.

 

[pibbleb]

Ok sorry to dredge this one up again!

A number of years ago I had to pick my Gran up from my dad's the two hour journey turned into a six and half hour marathon due to bad weather.

Anyway, I got caught short in a huge traffic jam, every time I thought about jumping out the traffic would move. So with my Gran in the car I ended up going in a Coke bottle.

My Gran enjoys bringing this up every now and then, my God woman I'm 34 years old let it GO!!!! The final straw was the below Christmas gift!

Thanks Gran

 

[Silverback]

For hammock campers cut a small slit in the middle of the hammock, fix velcro either side of the slit then when the urge to go strikes, roll over, 'pop out' through the velcro, job done and yes I am joking .

I take my 6 year old son hammock camping with me so getting up at least once in the night is always expected