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What does it taste like?

No idea I'm afraid. I am just trying to include more foods that are proven to be beneficial to health. I don't like Beetroot but I drink it daily because its got proven benefits.
Or why I eat Kale. ( easier to drink tbh )

Natto is the highest provider of K2 - Just want to include it if easy to make.

 
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Nope, not me....and I like soya.
I tried Natto once.....the stuff went into the compost bin.

I think it's an 'acquired' taste.....well, texture.

Honestly ? I'd just eat an egg, a real one, not an eggbeater yolkless thing. It's the yolk that has the K2.....I'm presuming that dried egg would have it ?

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Nope, not me....and I like soya.
I tried Natto once.....the stuff went into the compost bin.

I think it's an 'acquired' taste.....well, texture.

Honestly ? I'd just eat an egg, a real one, not an eggbeater yolkless thing. It's the yolk that has the K2.....I'm presuming that dried egg would have it ?

M

Egg has some - not very much . So unless you're eating and absorbing alot of eggs ( which is/isn't a bad thing ) it needs to be looked at in context.
 
Well, so does the bit about how much do we naturally actually need ?

Humanity exists world wide, happily thriving on an enormous range of diets. There are a lot of healthy vegetarians as well as folks who traditionally lived pretty much only on meat and fish.

Natto ....hmmmm, rotting soya beans, slimy sort of....and a funny taste and I like Nooch (nutritional yeast, strong unami sort of flavour) and blue cheese :)
 
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Are you dificient in K2?

Should be plenty in a decent diet, unless you're vegetarian/vegan.

Sounds interesting stuff though, worth giving it a go. Might be the best thing you ever tasted.
 
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I’m vegetarian and have never heard of K2. I eat a healthy range of food and take multi vitamins (just going to look on the bottle for K2). Presume if it’s there then I need it. Also take a calcium/magnesium and D because I use steroid inhalers and that was recommended by doctor.

So tablet have K - not k2 if it’s any different. Having a quick read it seems to be an ‘emerging’ thing for the need for K2.
 
No idea I'm afraid. I am just trying to include more foods that are proven to be beneficial to health. I don't like Beetroot but I drink it daily because its got proven benefits.
Or why I eat Kale. ( easier to drink tbh )

Natto is the highest provider of K2 - Just want to include it if easy to make.

That’s a random list of foods including some very ultra processed meat products with lots of animal fats that I wouldn’t have eaten when I did eat meat!

If you are not vegetarian then I’d take the liver over fermented and slimed beans!
 
I’m vegetarian and have never heard of K2. I eat a healthy range of food and take multi vitamins (just going to look on the bottle for K2). Presume if it’s there then I need it. Also take a calcium/magnesium and D because I use steroid inhalers and that was recommended by doctor.

So tablet have K - not k2 if it’s any different. Having a quick read it seems to be an ‘emerging’ thing for the need for K2.

I 'think' (please do your own reading ) - if you're taking Vitamin D ( good thing ) you should make sure you get the type that had K2 added. ( or get it elsewhere )


 
Can I just ask, why do you need a foodstuff high in K2? How much does someone need compared to how much they are likely to get from a so called balanced diet without high in K2 special diet add-ons?

I only ask because many vitamins are only needed in typical amounts in a diet and once over basically get broken down and removed from the body. I just have this feeling there's an increasing fad or fashion for vitamins whether obtained from a bottle of tablets or special foods and diets. Often with very little scientific agreement on benefit.

So that is why I ask about the high in K2 foods? Are you deficient or is this some kind of , well more is better approach? If the latter are you really doing better or wasting your time.

I don't have time to look into it myself and TBH I once got sucked into the multi vitamins thing once. I felt like my commute time was slowing rather than plateauing or improving. So I thought a multivitamin can't harm. I took it and thought I was feeling better. I thought I was going better on the bike and all that. Reality was delusion. My times showed I was no different to before using the multivitamin. So bottle emptied in saw the performance version on offer and got that.I felt it was working but it wasn't. No benefit at all. I got colds the same, commute time was the same, I was just as tired at the end of the day.

In the end I kept forgetting to take it and still felt the same. So that bottle of vitamins went out of date in a drawer. That is my experience only. What did more good for me was monitoring my lifestyle with a good tracker watch. Sleep patterns, resting heart rate, etc.

In fact RHR was the single most significant measure for me. When it suddenly jumped a few beats I knew a cold or bug was taking hold. That meant I could do something about it days before symptoms. I found i drank more orange juice and even made hot toddies without the alcohol.

In that period of time that I did it my colds went from real humdingers to practically no symptoms or just not happening. All through easing up and taking a bit more care over myself when the RHR went up.
 
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Can I just ask, why do you need a foodstuff high in K2? How much does someone need compared to how much they are likely to get from a so called balanced diet without high in K2 special diet add-ons?

I only ask because many vitamins are only needed in typical amounts in a diet and once over basically get broken down and removed from the body. I just have this feeling there's an increasing fad or fashion for vitamins whether obtained from a bottle of tablets or special foods and diets. Often with very little scientific agreement on benefit.

So that is why I ask about the high in K2 foods? Are you deficient or is this some kind of , well more is better approach? If the latter are you really doing better or wasting your time.

I don't have time to look into it myself and TBH I once got sucked into the multi vitamins thing once. I felt like my commute time was slowing rather than plateauing or improving. So I thought a multivitamin can't harm. I took it and thought I was feeling better. I thought I was going better on the bike and all that. Reality was delusion. My times showed I was no different to before using the multivitamin. So bottle emptied in saw the performance version on offer and got that.I felt it was working but it wasn't. No benefit at all. I got colds the same, commute time was the same, I was just as tired at the end of the day.

In the end I kept forgetting to take it and still felt the same. So that bottle of vitamins went out of date in a drawer. That is my experience only. What did more good for me was monitoring my lifestyle with a good tracker watch. Sleep patterns, resting heart rate, etc.

In fact RHR was the single most significant measure for me. When it suddenly jumped a few beats I knew a cold or bug was taking hold. That meant I could do something about it days before symptoms. I found i drank more orange juice and even made hot toddies without the alcohol.

In that period of time that I did it my colds went from real humdingers to practically no symptoms or just not happening. All through easing up and taking a bit more care over myself when the RHR went up.

Define balanced diet ? Is yours Balanced? If so how do you know?
 
In those regions of Japan where people consume Natto osteoporosis is almost unknown, that is apparently mostly caused by K2. K2 also affects bruising or at least the marks, that apparently is because of blood coaculation being slightly faster even though K1 is the main catalyzer.
 
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Can I just ask, why do you need a foodstuff high in K2? How much does someone need compared to how much they are likely to get from a so called balanced diet without high in K2 special diet add-ons?
In a typical western diet, it would seem that it is somewhat lacking. So something like natto would likely be a pretty good addition to a 'balanced diet'.
 
Certain fermentation processes produce K2 in various foods, like Gouda cheese. It was in the past much more common preservation method than now. Kind of meaning that in times gone by people possibly got K2 from those. I have not studied where hunter gatherers got it.
 
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