What light weight stove??

[Yorkshirewanderer]

Hi Guys, I'm looking at lightening my load a bit on the stove side of things while out walking, at the moment I use Coleman 250 gas canister with a cheap burner that screws on top. Searching around came up with a few alternatives that i like the look of-
http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/cookers-and-stoves/RB104.html
http://www.woodgaz-stove.com/starlyte-stove.php
http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/cookers-and-stoves/RB105.html

Just wondered if anyone has any of the above and if they recommend any of them, or any other alternative suggestions?

Cheers

 

[stone monkey]

Hi, you can make an ultra lightweight one out of 2 drinks cans that burn meths. Check you tube. I made one and now cannot stop making them trying different configurations to see which is best

 

[mick91]

There's a little corker on the gift it on thread or was this morning. Grab it if you have something to offer up

 

[petrochemicals]

People like this type, I think it's referred to as a monkeyboy stove.

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-spill-...packing-pan-and-mugs-/151770388036?nav=SEARCH

 

[Yorkshirewanderer]

Hi, you can make an ultra lightweight one out of 2 drinks cans that burn meths. Check you tube. I made one and now cannot stop making them trying different configurations to see which is best

No overly keen on those stone monkey, not very solid and prone to been crushed, thanks for the suggestion though.

There's a little corker on the gift it on thread or was this morning. Grab it if you have something to offer up

That's what i'm using at the moment mick, its a burner to screw on a canister that's up for swaps.

 

[mick91]

Oh I get you like an alternative to them. Hexi is always an option

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[Yorkshirewanderer]

People like this type, I think it's referred to as a monkeyboy stove.

http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-spill-...packing-pan-and-mugs-/151770388036?nav=SEARCH

That's basically a knock off of the starlyte stove, I have that on my watch list, was thinking on buying it anyway at that price, you can never have too many shiny things

 

[Harvestman]

I use a whitebox stove in my pocket brew kit. Nice bit of kit.

 

[rg598]

If you are thinking of an alcohol stove, you can start out by making your own and see if it suits you. Here is a cheap alcohol stove based set up that should cost you around $20 all together: http://woodtrekker.blogspot.com/2011/06/lightweight-cooking-kit-for-under-20.html

Here is my minimalist kit that is based on an alcohol stove: http://woodtrekker.blogspot.com/2013/09/my-minimalist-cook-kit.html It's not DIY because...well, I don't follow my own advise.

Otherwise, there are plenty of very lightweight canister stoves. You can't go wrong with a MSR Pocket Rocket, but there are plenty other ones that are even lighter.

 

[Yorkshirewanderer]

Does anyone use a gel stove? what are your thoughts? do they burn as hot as an alcohol stove?

 

[Whiteburn]

Does anyone use a gel stove? what are your thoughts? do they burn as hot as an alcohol stove?

Fuel gels are basically ethanol in a water based gel, hence has a lower calorific value. Some of the products are 25% water.

 

[Whiteburn]

Hi Guys, I'm looking at lightening my load a bit on the stove side of things while out walking, at the moment I use Coleman 250 gas canister with a cheap burner that screws on top. Searching around came up with a few alternatives that i like the look of-
http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/cookers-and-stoves/RB104.html
http://www.woodgaz-stove.com/starlyte-stove.php
http://www.backpackinglight.co.uk/cookers-and-stoves/RB105.html

Just wondered if anyone has any of the above and if they recommend any of them, or any other alternative suggestions?

Cheers

The stove needs to be matched with the pot e.g. IME the whitebox is pretty inefficient with a small diameter pot.
The wind shield is the most important thing with any alcohol stove.

Have a browse through ZenStoves it has lots of info on different types of stoves & set ups.

 

[Alan 13~7]

here's an idea :~ if you want to go alcohol light weight & compact, Try the trangia triangle, trangia burner. a computer fan finger guard cut to size resting on top & a tin mug which doubles as cook pot... & the lid off a tuna can facilitates the use of esbit or hexamin solid fuel tabs

trangia triangle by Alan 13-7, on Flickr.

trangia triangle by Alan 13-7, on Flickr

trangia triangle & hexamin solid fuel plate by Alan 13-7, on Flickr

including tin mug complete kit weighs in at 385 grams excludding fuel

 

[MikeLA]

of the 3 I would go with the White Box stove. I always fall back on to a hexi stove or hexi and 3x 6 inch naile

 

[Yorkshirewanderer]

The stove needs to be matched with the pot e.g. IME the whitebox is pretty inefficient with a small diameter pot.
The wind shield is the most important thing with any alcohol stove.

Have a browse through ZenStoves it has lots of info on different types of stoves & set ups.

The pot I use is 110mm, at the mo I use my trangia sat in a bushbox along with a cheap windshield that I got from eBay, all in all a bit heavy. Looking at a foil windshield next along with making a pot rest out of a wire coat hanger or similar like this

 

[Yorkshirewanderer]

here's an idea :~ if you want to go alcohol light weight & compact, Try the trangia triangle, trangia burner. a computer fan finger guard cut to size resting on top & a tin mug which doubles as cook pot... & the lid off a tuna can facilitates the use of esbit or hexamin solid fuel tabs.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/53502716@N06/20754349532/in/dateposted-public/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/53502716@N06/20575745530/in/dateposted-public/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/53502716@N06/20142763663/in/dateposted-public/

including tin mug complete kit weighs in at 385 grams excludding fuel

That's pretty cool Alan, I like the use of the computer fan guard, I think I have an old computer in the loft too 😀

 

[Quixoticgeek]

Having used a selection of meths stoves in the last few months, the Starlyte has come top. It's more efficient than any other I've used, meaning it uses less meths than any of the others. The fact you can blow it out and put the lid on helps a lot too. Can't recommend it enough...

I just need to decide if I want to keep the white box stove I've just bought (narrower version from the US, not the one from BPL). It's got a lovely burn pattern, it's very pretty, and light... but it's not as efficient as the Starlyte.

J

 

[Dark Horse Dave]

of the 3 I would go with the White Box stove. I always fall back on to a hexi stove or hexi and 3x 6 inch naile

I'm pretty much the same in fact. I like the WB, and use it most often with a mini Trangia pan. Up on Box Hill the other night watching meteors it was hexi and a mess tin for the hot chocolate - simple, reliable and less easy to knock over in the dark. Not very heavy either.



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[Paul_B]

The whitebox stove is sold more as a faster burner than an efficient stove. It burns water faster than most other meths stoves IME. I have a WBS, standard triad, AGG cookset which came with a can burner, Caldera cone for the AGG pot (3 cup one which is wide and low), a mini trangia and a smaller version of the proper trangia. If I had to choose I would go gas stove every time. My ancient primus can top stove is just so reliable with the PZ ignition it just works all the time without problems, even in quite low temps although that may need a fresh gas can with the better mixtures (i always try to use a primus gas can because IMHO they are better gas mix).

I have used all the meths stoves I have owned and can see how they all have a place which is determined by what works for the individual. i know this is not really advise but I can say that IMHO a stove that works for one person may not work for another. I love my caldera not least because it is the most efficient system I own for burning meths to boil water. I just find it too bulky in the plastic tube and I can't spare the cash to get the Ti version that is split so it fits into the pan.

For a while I used the WBS and I loved it but IME it is very unstable in the hills. Mind you a few spare Ti pegs and it is stabilized but at the weight of spare pegs or pegs removed from your shelter.

The triad is not very efficient but is solid and works. You can rely on it to work and it is stable.

The mini trangia (mine is a clone bought for a third of the price of a main brand version) is heavy and not very efficient. I am however learning to love my partner's trangia for car camping as a second stove for use with the remote gas stove (when we are on a quick overnight camp and trying to take less stuff only).

There is a UK maker (or was) from Scotland that made a stove not too different from the Starlyte. It used to advertise a lot in TGO magazine but I have not seen it for a few years (no longer get the mag). It is a round burner with three wire legs that swivel out to provide solid footing and pot support in one. kind of like the dragonfly multi fuel stove legs IMO.

One thing I do think, lighter stoves have less mass to heat up to reach the higher efficiency burn. IME it is part of the reason I have not got on with the mini trangia or the trangia burner without the rest of the kit just a stand. Also you can use Ti pegs as pot stands above a meths burner, just three needed, and they are then able to be put back to use for your shelter after they have cooled. Also pegs can be used to stabilize a can top gas stove.

Someone rightly said the pots do need to match the spread of the burner, or if you are making your own burners (think the OP does not like that idea) then you could make the burner patter to suit your existing pans. BTW those lightweight can burners can be made with any similar drinks cans should you crush the one you made earlier. I have heard of people not even leaving home with one but making it after finding two cans in the bin at or near their destination. Take the knowledge not the kit!!

 

[tombear]

I've been really happy with my set up, used with a variety of sizes of Evernew pans. Ti Clickstand wind shield with a Evernew ti Stove and triangular adapter thing that came with the stand. It's a shame, as he was a really nice guy when I dealt with him, that Trangia introduced their version.

http://www.clikstand.com/

Although if I was doing it again I'd just get a clone like this one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Survival-...64eCXvkWly1zN22WjSFCY%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

The only problem I had with it at first was learning to just put in enough fuel for the job in hand since there's no lid. In theory you could pour the stuff back into whatever container you use but since I'm still using a platypuss little nipper with a squirt lid it would be a fiddly job or I'd have to use a funnel.

ATB

Tom