Want to go long distances on a bicycle, but also want to be able to off-road - ideas?
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Used to have a GT hybrid that was pretty good as far as hybrids go but I personally found it wasn't that good on trail so I put proper mountain tyres on it which made it not really a hybrid. Then upgraded toa Specialized hardrock pro disc- absolutely love this thing! Hardtail with lockout forks so its great on road but can be easily unlocked whilst riding with one hand when you hit the rough stuff. Also just recently put a set of Schwalbe city jet tyres on it (road tyres to fit 2.9" mountain rims) for riding to uni every day on roads and I gained about 2.5mph average so well worth it. Easy enough to swap the tyres back for trail riding though, or even get a spare set of rims.
My fathers GT avalanche 3.0 was as good on road as off road. But it will brake when it gets run over by a car; design flaw.
As a bit of a polycyclic[1] geek I find that the bike I use most for what you describe, out of my hybrids, touring bike, fixess and folders is...
The Brompton.
Yeah, the quirky little commuter bike. I've done some rather bat **** things with my Brompton, Road, off road, up hill, down dale, and a rather lot in the Netherlands. Upgraded with a 8 speed rear hub, funky bar ends, and a rack under the seat for my dry bag, It really has become a wonder bike for travel, touring, and nipping to the shops to get something for dinner.
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Julia
[1]Owner of more than one bike, not rather than having lots of hydrogen loops...
Now you're talking! Love my bikes, had all sorts. Probably the most versatile was the brompton and my own favourite, the moulton- fantastic small wheeled bikes perfect for commuting and excellent for touring
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When I was younger (when they were clearing dead dinosaurs off the road) my friends and I used to go "tracking". This entailed riding down different woodland tracks on our bikes for the hell of it. Most of us built our own bikes, any frame, biggest tyres you could find, no mudguards (radical!) And usually sporting a pair of cowhorn bars.(mostly half-cowhorns as the extra inches on the full cowhorns could lead to embarrassment when riding thru the narrow gap between two trees!) One chap used an old moped frame, which had front suspension (very cool, but it took 3 of us to manhandle it over fences.) Sorry for the slight derailment, just wanted to share.
Surly Big Dummy:
Brooks B.17 saddle, Surly Open Bar 40mm Rise, Ergon GP1 Biokork grips, Shimano MX30 pedals.
Motobecane Gran Turismo:
Brooks B-17 saddle, Ergon GP1 Biokork grips, Shimano Deore controls, Topeak rack and bag.
Every ride begins with 100 yards of dirt driveway, then 1/2 mile of limerock grade to the surfaced road. Cargo bikes make easy work of 60 pound loads, will transport much heavier loads. Big Dummy handles all camping cargo loads, Gran Turismo is for the light loads.
[video=youtube;eqv1tPszZKQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqv1tPszZKQ[/video]
Brooks B.17 saddle, Surly Open Bar 40mm Rise, Ergon GP1 Biokork grips, Shimano MX30 pedals.
Motobecane Gran Turismo:
Brooks B-17 saddle, Ergon GP1 Biokork grips, Shimano Deore controls, Topeak rack and bag.
Every ride begins with 100 yards of dirt driveway, then 1/2 mile of limerock grade to the surfaced road. Cargo bikes make easy work of 60 pound loads, will transport much heavier loads. Big Dummy handles all camping cargo loads, Gran Turismo is for the light loads.
[video=youtube;eqv1tPszZKQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqv1tPszZKQ[/video]
Doesn't look like the op has been back.
If he does in the future i'd give a +1 for a 29" MTB
Tough, rolls well over terrain, comfortable and very capable both on and off-road
If he does in the future i'd give a +1 for a 29" MTB
Tough, rolls well over terrain, comfortable and very capable both on and off-road
I have just bought my first bike since being a teen.
Just a cheap Boss blade hard tail from a catalog as im skint
Im also looking to buy panniers and other bags to take some kit off my back and start bikepacking.
Really looking forward to being able to go long distances again and getting fitter too.
Just a cheap Boss blade hard tail from a catalog as im skint
Im also looking to buy panniers and other bags to take some kit off my back and start bikepacking.
Really looking forward to being able to go long distances again and getting fitter too.
RE8ELD0G, check out ebay for panniers and racks. Everyone is so obsessed with ortlieb these days; the older types are sold off for a song.
Just be careful mate, that's a pretty poor quality bike, it's a steel frame made from unbranded tubing with a pretty terrible front fork.
Should be fine for easy tow path type riding or the road, but if you start loading it up or giving it a trouncing off-road things are going to start failing.
Sorry to be a downer, but i've personally witnessed bikes like these fail on more than 1 occasion.
It's tough to find a MTB that's up to regular off-road use for under £300 new.
That's not snobbery, it's just that the frame, wheels and components cost money to make.
On a tight budget your best bet is to buy a older used bike, bike geometry, wheel sizes, brake types etc have change a fair bit in the last 5 years, but a decent 5+ year old bike will still stand a fair bit of abuse and you'll be able to ride it as far or hard as you want.
Again really sorry to be a downer, i was in 2 minds to say something.
If i hadn't had mates with similar bikes fail on them i would have kept my mouth shut, but the last one failed at the frame, right near the headtube, which could have been very nasty so i figured it's better you know so you can keep an eye out.
Thank.
I do understand this is a poorly built cheap bike.
It was only purchased to het me back in the road until I find work and then I can build my own bike from the parts I want.
Its not gonna be used for anything but road and bridleways so it should be fine.
Thanks for the warning anyway.
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I do understand this is a poorly built cheap bike.
It was only purchased to het me back in the road until I find work and then I can build my own bike from the parts I want.
Its not gonna be used for anything but road and bridleways so it should be fine.
Thanks for the warning anyway.
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Cbr6fs' post does make the useful point that it's perhaps worth keeping an eye for wear/stress/cracks when cleaning so you don't have an unfortunate road eating incident. It's unlikely but it could happen to anyone.
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Panniers are usefull but once loaded up the handling resembles a bike as miuch as a boat resembles an icecream cornet, dump the panniers and get a quick release trailer, top of the range is a BOB (Beast of burden) but there are hundreds of excellent copies out there at a 1/4 of the price
This is a BOB will set you back between 3 and 5 hundred quid
and the german copy set you back about £50 inc P+P, i have and use one of these, bike handles normally due to low centre of gravity and goes anywhere the bike does, over fences quick release detach and lift over and recouple in seconds, so simple it is criminal how far you can go. This is my favourite pastime and way to access the outdoors with my spine problem, only change i had to make was remove the road mud guard and replace with an offroad one, awesome kit gave me a whole new lease of outdoor life
single wheel BOB copy http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FoxHunter-Bike-Bicycle-Cycle-Cargo-Luggage-Trailer-With-Storage-Bag-Single-Wheel-/191071183025?pt=UK_SportGoods_CyclAcces_RL&hash=item2c7cbae0b1
This is a BOB will set you back between 3 and 5 hundred quid
and the german copy set you back about £50 inc P+P, i have and use one of these, bike handles normally due to low centre of gravity and goes anywhere the bike does, over fences quick release detach and lift over and recouple in seconds, so simple it is criminal how far you can go. This is my favourite pastime and way to access the outdoors with my spine problem, only change i had to make was remove the road mud guard and replace with an offroad one, awesome kit gave me a whole new lease of outdoor life
single wheel BOB copy http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FoxHunter-Bike-Bicycle-Cycle-Cargo-Luggage-Trailer-With-Storage-Bag-Single-Wheel-/191071183025?pt=UK_SportGoods_CyclAcces_RL&hash=item2c7cbae0b1
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Yeah i had a few accidents when bike broke as a teenager,
I went down a mud hill hit a tree root and the whole front handlebars and fork with the headset snapped clean off my old Falcon.
Shoddy welding to say the least.
That was a fun landing..........
And i pulled a wheelie on another and the forks fell off the bottom which sent me rolling over the handlebars on landing it.
And no i did not notice my front wheel/forks coming off.......was too busy showing off to some ladies.
I went down a mud hill hit a tree root and the whole front handlebars and fork with the headset snapped clean off my old Falcon.
Shoddy welding to say the least.
That was a fun landing..........
And i pulled a wheelie on another and the forks fell off the bottom which sent me rolling over the handlebars on landing it.
And no i did not notice my front wheel/forks coming off.......was too busy showing off to some ladies.
some extra info, it carries 35kilo and pack totally flat
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FoxHunter...K_SportGoods_CyclAcces_RL&hash=item2c7cbae0b1
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FoxHunter...K_SportGoods_CyclAcces_RL&hash=item2c7cbae0b1
Need to be careful with MTB's though as many full suspension MTB's have wider axle widths.
If these are intended for road bikes i'm guessing they're 130mm?
Also found trailers to be pretty much useless on any track rougher than a canal tow path.
Only other problem i had was on steep downhills, the loaded trailer wanted to overtake the bike so make braking extremely unstable.
fits all axle widths just not any wheel size bigger than 26inch, the arms connected to the bike are very adaptable, you replace your quick release axle with the one that comes with the trailer and sticks out even further with the hitch pegs at the ends
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