Defender V Hilux, Head V Heart
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if i could afford it i have to say that I'd chop in my defender for a landcruiser amazon, I love the defender but ageing is always hanging over your head, need to put a new backend on the 110.....anyway, as I said, I'd go for a Toyota if I could afford it.
I know were my head and heart are, I have a Landy, so do many of my mates, and they get heavely off roaded, as we maintain our landys ourselfs, never realy find them expensive to repair, mine have always be reliable and cheap to repair, most 4x4's drink fuel like water it goes with the teritory....
Always a Landy for me....
Always a Landy for me....
ive got a mk3 hilux 1996, ive only had it for 2 years but feels as if it will go on forever and of course its never let me down nothing to go wrong really, im a member of a club a guy on there had a standard hilux same as mine spent 4 years driving across Europe deserts the lot never broke down he done 155,000 kms and still going now, the newer ones are more comfy but they wont be as reliable in the future to much electronic gubbins.
Landy ; buy spanners, mend, buy fuel, drive, mend again and so on
Hilux ; buy fuel and drive, refuel and drive again and so on
and yes I've had both
atb Dave
Hilux ; buy fuel and drive, refuel and drive again and so on
and yes I've had both
atb Dave
Dont hit a deep ford with your navara though!!
Landy has better residual values than the hilux, granted the toyota's have a strong rv but not as good as the landy, plus parts are way cheaper for the landy!!
Landy has better residual values than the hilux, granted the toyota's have a strong rv but not as good as the landy, plus parts are way cheaper for the landy!!
yep landy parts are easy to get and cheaper, i nearly got a 110 pickup but haven't got the time be be fixing it all the time, and i love the look of them there iconic, i know some are dead reliable 200tdi engine is great, but i just needed a vehicle were i know its going to start 99.9% of the time whenever what ever so i can earn my money, like all things its how there maintained to. horses for courses lol
It's not just how they're maintained, how they're driven has a lot to do with it. I know several people who have an "old landy" as a second/shooting car. Most of them will treat their recular every day cars carefully, but when some of them get behind the wheel of the landy thet change & start driving it like it's achallenger tank. Now, tough or not no vehicle is going to stand that for long before something breaks, be it from Solihull, Tokyo or wherever. Just an obsevration.
I've also noticed on our shoot, that people will happily turn up on work days in their nice shiny Toyotas, Nissans, Mitsu's etc, but come time to load up with gear and go do the dirty stuff they all pile in the nearest landy - usually mine! Of course, your mileage may vary.
Dave.
I've also noticed on our shoot, that people will happily turn up on work days in their nice shiny Toyotas, Nissans, Mitsu's etc, but come time to load up with gear and go do the dirty stuff they all pile in the nearest landy - usually mine! Of course, your mileage may vary.
Dave.
if youre wading deeper than 400mm then you would probably be classed as an enthusiast and get a snorkel etc.
guess it depends on what the op is looking to do with it. i spend more time on the road. imo the navara cruises better at motorway speeds due to the additional gear than the hilux, although i prefer the looks of the hilux.
on another note dont think i would want to crash in a landie due to the distinct lack of safety features - the new ranger looks pretty good from that angle
Having previously had my life saved by airbags in the end they weigh in my own heart vs head dileama. I test drove the navara and the 2012ranger back to back. There was no choice the ford was way better drive, better equiped, safer all round at 5 stars encap vs 3 for the navara and similar money. Both though are above op's budget. The navara i understand is having known problems with the dmf and of timing chains snapping.
The 800mm wade depth also makes me chuckle in the tescos carpark... Im aslo getting 28mpg in town and low thirtys averaging on dual carridgeways.
This turning into a great thread, cheers guys.
Of course, it's still not actually helping me make up my mind but it is good to read so many peoples views.
The last 110 i owned has 3 engine rebuilds over 5 years (it was one of the old turbo diesels) and, when my estranged wife finally put her foot down, i reckon i'd spent over 10k on it
Yet, even after that, my heart still says 'go on, you know you want one!'
I'm sure i'm not the only one that is torn between the simple and basics versus all mod cons and super gadgets. i think it seems to be quite a familiar theme on here.
Cheers for all the comments folks.
Of course, it's still not actually helping me make up my mind but it is good to read so many peoples views.
The last 110 i owned has 3 engine rebuilds over 5 years (it was one of the old turbo diesels) and, when my estranged wife finally put her foot down, i reckon i'd spent over 10k on it
Yet, even after that, my heart still says 'go on, you know you want one!'
I'm sure i'm not the only one that is torn between the simple and basics versus all mod cons and super gadgets. i think it seems to be quite a familiar theme on here.
Cheers for all the comments folks.
LOL dave, thats so right!! the thing is though at our shoot its a hilux we use!! all the others get left at the gate :-D however we dont have a landy!!
The most capable of all the motors at our shoot is a Jimny, the only motor that hasnt been stuck when everything else did!! i think that was a weight thing and some clever driving!!
Aye being in a crash in a landy would be interesting, we had one in that was rear ended and the bloody thing was folded! we had a navara in that was smashed and it held up ok, however it was totalled due to all the parts that were damaged coolers pipes etc!
Hi-Lux parts are crazy prices, one of our guys had worn keys and needed them replaced, £1500 for the lock set as it needed an ecu and programming as the master was lost!! we made the lock set up from a stolen recovered yaris for free!! Phew!!
I have heard of a few navaras popped and others with wonky electrics after going through water or hitting deep puddles, as you say its more of an on road truck!!
The most capable of all the motors at our shoot is a Jimny, the only motor that hasnt been stuck when everything else did!! i think that was a weight thing and some clever driving!!
Aye being in a crash in a landy would be interesting, we had one in that was rear ended and the bloody thing was folded! we had a navara in that was smashed and it held up ok, however it was totalled due to all the parts that were damaged coolers pipes etc!
Hi-Lux parts are crazy prices, one of our guys had worn keys and needed them replaced, £1500 for the lock set as it needed an ecu and programming as the master was lost!! we made the lock set up from a stolen recovered yaris for free!! Phew!!
I have heard of a few navaras popped and others with wonky electrics after going through water or hitting deep puddles, as you say its more of an on road truck!!
In no way can you be described as a spanner monkey... buy a disposable Toymota!
Landy's are expensive when you're paying for other people's time or a garage labour rate, otherwise they're ridiculously cheap to run and repair. As was hinted at earlier, provided you don't drive it like you've stolen it and you keep to the service schedule they're fine.
I had a ford ranger aswell and it was a great truck 2002 xt i think it was, only downside with pickups is they run in rear wheel drive and are terrible for traction, you can litteraly get stuck in a puddle and the rear end loves to kick out on wet roads which can be fun!
I'm getting a little confused here. This (and a couple of previous posts) seems to indicate that not all vehicles have airbags. I was under the impression that they are required in the ?(and had been for at least 7 years)
That said, while I was on patrol, as a sheriff's deputy, I attended several crashes in which the air bags did not deploy. Without investigating further (regarding the airbags) I suspect the CO2 cartridges had lost their charge over the years (no vehicle I know of has an inspection of said catridge in it's service schedule)
I think they mean some have full airbags like a full curtain air bag between the pillars unlike the defender
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