No interest in trapping or hunting

[Paullyfuzz]

Is there anybody else like me that ain't really interested in learning to trap or hunt ? It's not because of any fluffy reason either, I'm a full on carnivore but have no interest in learning how to trap animals unless I really have to. Yeah, you maybe be saying that you never know when you may have to, but actually I can safely say that I can never see myself in a situation where I would need to hunt and trap. I do my bushcrafting in the UK and am never away long enough not to be able to carry all of my food with me.
The reason I've mentioned this is that I'm looking at going on a few courses and am looking for someone that doesn't have some form of trapping in their course.
I suppose that im more into bushcraft than survival as I'm never going to be in a survival situation.

 

[Harvestman]

That's a valid point of view. Can't help with the courses though.

 

[santaman2000]

Maybe you should change your search parameters. Instead of looking for "bushcraft" courses, look for "camping" courses, "canoeing" courses, "hiking" courses, "fieldcraft" courses, etc. Good luck.

 

[decorum]

It might be worth contacting Paul Kirtley (Frontier Bushcraft) as he does bespoke courses ~ Link.


It might be worth asking various schools whether they do courses which don't include Traps and Trapping ~ or whether there's an alternative you can do whilst others are doing that bit ??? . There must be plenty of people who don't sign up for a course because of the 'animal bits'.

 

[Paullyfuzz]

Maybe you should change your search parameters. Instead of looking for "bushcraft" courses, look for "camping" courses, "canoeing" courses, "hiking" courses, "fieldcraft" courses, etc. Good luck.

Sounds like you think anyone not into trapping can't be a bushcrafter

 

[Retired Member southey]

Yo! What are the subjects/skills you would like to learn?

 

[Paullyfuzz]

Shelter building
firelighting
fire management
cooking with an open fire
water purification
foraging
animal tracking
Axe and knife use
plant and tree identification
leaving no trace

These would be the ones I'd want

 

[Toddy]

Funnily enough I was thinking about this too.
I want to learn to make things, and though I know that the animal products, hide, bone, sinew, etc., are marvellous resources; tbh i would really like to do a course that focused on other things.
I have made rawhide, prepped sinew, made bone needles......but I didn't shoot the deer, or trap the rabbits, or the grouse or pheasant, nor catch the salmon. Cooked them for others right enough, but they're not food for me. I am vegetarian, and have been for most of my life now.

To those who would claim that I can't be a proper bushcrafter, and they usually ask, "If you don't eat meat, then what 'do' you eat??", and my reply is simply, "Everything else ". The same applies to bushcraft.

The knife/saw/axe skills, stone working, woodworking, barkwork, rootwork, shelter building, safety, navigation, herb use, winter foraging, tracking, landscape studies, water safety and exploitation, camouflage and how to pick a site, ropework, knotwork, climbing/crossing and fire techniques and cooking methods............and that's just for starters

atb,
M

 

[HillBill]

Never is a long time Bet many of those who found themselves in a survival situation, held the same belief.

Life has a way of throwing irony at you, be careful what you say lol

I suppose that im more into bushcraft than survival as I'm never going to be in a survival situation.

 

[Bluebs4]

I think it's just exercising our primitive instincts

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[Bushwhacker]

It's not all about food. Unless you find yourself having to deal with pests you may never know.

 

[Tengu]

But what you are saying is perfectly correct.

I have never gone on a bushcraft course because I see no interest or relevance in many things...

Shelter building...I will have a tent or at the very worst, a poncho with me.

Survival in funny climes...I dont travel.

Spoon carving...come on!

The only time I have been in the true wilds was when I was on North Rona, You would `not` need any skills to catch the birds or even a seal, trust me. (And theres TWO unlocked buildings with food and fuel inside...)

Fishing skills `might` have been useful...if you ran out of beer and twiglets.

 

[Retired Member southey]

Shelter building is not just about the shelter you build, its about getting a better idea about what's important about any shelter be it one our going to caryy or one you build,
Spoon carving is taught as a way to introduce you to carving, useing the cuts and grips that will give you a basis to then expand what you can make, it isn't the be all skill, you can make other things too.

But what you are saying is perfectly correct.

I have never gone on a bushcraft course because I see no interest or relevance in many things...

Shelter building...I will have a tent or at the very worst, a poncho with me.

Survival in funny climes...I dont travel.

Spoon carving...come on!

The only time I have been in the true wilds was when I was on North Rona, You would `not` need any skills to catch the birds or even a seal, trust me. (And theres TWO unlocked buildings with food and fuel inside...)

Fishing skills `might` have been useful...if you ran out of beer and twiglets.

 

[Chiseller]

Never is a long time Bet many of those who found themselves in a survival situation, held the same belief.

Life has a way of throwing irony at you, be careful what you say lol

+1

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[Pandabean]

When I was on a woodsmoke course a few years back there were a couple of vegetarians on the course who didn't want to know about trapping or any of the skinning part and disappeared for the period that the rest of the group did it. Not sure what they did though.

Maybe if you are on one of these course mention up front to one of the instructors and see if they can go over something else with you whilst the others are learning about traps? I am sure some companies would be more than happy to do this with you. No harm in asking?

Not learning about traps/skinning doesn't make you less of a bushcrafter in my opinion.

 

[ged]

Maybe you should change your search parameters. Instead of looking for "bushcraft" courses, look for "camping" courses, "canoeing" courses, "hiking" courses, "fieldcraft" courses, etc. Good luck.

Sounds like you think anyone not into trapping can't be a bushcrafter

I'm sure that Dan was trying to be helpful.

As one or two here have already said, the unexpected often happens unexpectedly. You yourself have said that you've no interest in learning to trap and hunt unless you absolutely have to. Unfortunately the way our civilization is set up at the moment, not learning until you absolutely have to might just be leaving it a little bit too late.

Here in the West, if I can put it that way, we are generally mollycoddled by industrial scale production of water, shelter, energy and food. That is all made possible by a historically unprecedented cooperation of millions of people. But it doesn't take too much stretching of the imagination to envisage a situation when suddenly all that support is gone, and it might be gone for long enough to present problems. Granted it's more likely to be because of something as simple as an accident or a mechanical failure on a journey, but it might be because of a breakdown in civilized society. You might say that's not likely but I would say that we've seen it happen recently -- although fortunately on a relatively small scale -- in some of our cities in the UK. In my view it's probably going to happen again before long in Greece, Spain or Italy. That's getting a bit close for comfort.

Granted there is no way that the British Isles could support its current human population as hunter-gatherers, there are about twenty times as many of us here now as could be supported. So you might say that there's still no point in learning how to support yourself. But there are those who think that a reduction in population of 95% might not necessarily be a bad thing, as long as they're amongst the other 5%.

I'm one of those.

 

[jackcbr]

Shelter building
firelighting
fire management
cooking with an open fire
water purification
foraging
animal tracking
Axe and knife use
plant and tree identification
leaving no trace

These would be the ones I'd want

Another vote for Paul Kirtley and Frontier Bushcraft. Have a look at his stuff.

 

[shaggystu]

you said in one of your posts that you're interested in tracking, which makes me think that you're probably interested in wildlife watching. how about asking the various course providers if they'll show you how to make trap triggers that are suitable for setting off a camera?

stuart

 

[udamiano]

you said in one of your posts that you're interested in tracking, which makes me think that you're probably interested in wildlife watching. how about asking the various course providers if they'll show you how to make trap triggers that are suitable for setting off a camera?

stuart

+1
the trap itself is basically a trigger and something to hold the prey, take away the latter and your left with a trigger.. this can be adapted to engage a number of things, from a bucket of cold water onto the head of someone to a button on a camera.. why not

 

[salad]

+1
the trap itself is basically a trigger and something to hold the prey, take away the latter and your left with a trigger.. this can be adapted to engage a number of things, from a bucket of cold water onto the head of someone to a button on a camera.. why not

So I should get some nice photos if I put my camera in a deadfall trap then ?