A little disappointed with Ray Mears

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Retired Member southey

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Jun 4, 2006
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I put my fish in the freezer in the kitchen. Some bloke with a white beard caught them, gandalf or dumbledoor? They come out all orange and rough, bit of tomato blood and they taste great!
 

ex-member Raikey

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I think firstly you need to agree that the act was 'cruel' which we don't seem to agree on. Then critiquing a 7 year old programme ( which in reality has been critiqued on this forum heaps of times in the past 7 years) serves what useful purpose other than to get a thread humming along on a forum.....

Personally the 'throat singing' or whatever at the end of the episode was pretty cruel to my ears but hey ho......

In my experience of fishing here in NZ for snapper etc it's pretty common to throw a fish you have unhooked that's still alive into a chilly bin of ice then continue fishing...



hahaha i,m a Yorkshireman mate,....

we still put canaries in cages as gas detection and ride ponies down the mines!!
 

cbr6fs

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You know that piece of "ethically line-caught cod" you got from the supermarket? Well, I rest my case.


"ethically"caught Cod suffers the exact same fate as non ethically caught Cod, only reason it gets it's "ethical" status is because it's caught in Iceland rather than the North Sea and is "supposedly" sustainable.

The fact remains if fish feel pain then no matter what industrial caught fish your eating it's suffered a damn site more than the fish in the Mears program.

Question is, where do you stop, do we make it illegal to eat animals?
That would cause more animal suffering long term than breeding them to be slaughtered and eaten.
What would we then do about cats that kill birds, birds of pray that kill rabbits?
You can't tell me a rabbit that's been snatched up by a bird of pray doesn't feel more pain than one that's been **** through the head.

What would happen when some weirdball wolly jumpered vegan finds a way of telling that vegetables suffer?


End of the day any fish in the ocean is bait to most other fish, cats are destroying the UK's song bird population but people only care about suffering animals as long as it means they haven't really got to sacrifice or do anything.
 

Retired Member southey

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I once saw this chap throw a skull that caused a massive door to crush a great majestic beast, I was horriied and vowed never to throw skulls at door switches, and to this day I haven't crushed any great beasts. This was some time ago too.
 
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ex-member Raikey

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Sep 4, 2010
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I once saw this chap though a skull that caused a massive door to crush a great majestic beast, I was horriied and vowed never to throw skulls at door switches, and to this day I haven't crushed any great beasts. This was some time ago too.


Dave , are you painting something??

is the paint from the 70's,..?

does it smell strong?
 

decorum

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May 2, 2007
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I'd guess that the manner of catch and dispatch was as he was shown by the locals :dunno: . In general, whether something falls into being 'right' or 'wrong' tends to be a contrivance of social acceptance.




Absolutlymondomatey! May the FARCE be with you!

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santaman2000

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Jan 15, 2011
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I think firstly you need to agree that the act was 'cruel' which we don't seem to agree on. Then critiquing a 7 year old programme ( which in reality has been critiqued on this forum heaps of times in the past 7 years) serves what useful purpose other than to get a thread humming along on a forum.....

Personally the 'throat singing' or whatever at the end of the episode was pretty cruel to my ears but hey ho......

In my experience of fishing here in NZ for snapper etc it's pretty common to throw a fish you have unhooked that's still alive into a chilly bin of ice then continue fishing...

Same here for many species; others are put on a stringer and suspended back in water the to keep them fresh (alive) until gutted at the end of the day instead of on ice.
 

vizsla

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Jun 6, 2010
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Im sure there would of been alot more complaints to the bbc if he had dispached them on telly. Bit of an awkward one realy i think when it comes to any sort of hunting your never going to be able to keep all viewers and animal rights happy
 

northumbrian

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Dec 25, 2009
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"ethically"caught Cod suffers the exact same fate as non ethically caught Cod, only reason it gets it's "ethical" status is because it's caught in Iceland rather than the North Sea and is "supposedly" sustainable.

The fact remains if fish feel pain then no matter what industrial caught fish your eating it's suffered a damn site more than the fish in the Mears program.

Question is, where do you stop, do we make it illegal to eat animals?
That would cause more animal suffering long term than breeding them to be slaughtered and eaten.
What would we then do about cats that kill birds, birds of pray that kill rabbits?
You can't tell me a rabbit that's been snatched up by a bird of pray doesn't feel more pain than one that's been **** through the head.

What would happen when some weirdball wolly jumpered vegan finds a way of telling that vegetables suffer?


End of the day any fish in the ocean is bait to most other fish, cats are destroying the UK's song bird population but people only care about suffering animals as long as it means they haven't really got to sacrifice or do anything.


i think there is a sect in india the believes veggies suffer too ?
 

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