Wool Bush Shirt ...
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just noticed from post no 88 i was no 7, now i am no 8 on the list....who stole my number, im off to the police to report my number 7 has been stolen 
Changes sound good, especially the roo pocket being lowered...
and i suppose i confirm my place even though im number 8 now....
Colin
Changes sound good, especially the roo pocket being lowered...
and i suppose i confirm my place even though im number 8 now....
Colin
just noticed from post no 88 i was no 7, now i am no 8 on the list....who stole my number, im off to the police to report my number 7 has been stolen
Changes sound good, especially the roo pocket being lowered...
and i suppose i confirm my place even though im number 8 now....
Colin
Sorry...a mix up with another in the top 10, Chris the Cat. Thanks No.8
could be worse i could be no 5 - hes a prisoner you know - if you get my drift 
showing my age with that programme
Colin
showing my age with that programme
Colin
I am no 14 so a bit of a wait, what sort of time frame are we looking at for the first 10 mate.
mark
mark
could be worse i could be no 5 - hes a prisoner you know - if you get my drift
showing my age with that programme
Colin
Colin , Read it an weep..............
http://www.sixofone.org.uk/Prisoner-Remake.htm
As intimately mad as the original was , i hope the remake does it justice...
Another generation born who will think 'theirs' is the original.
:BlueTeamE
That looks like a quality piece of kit at a good fair price. Can't wait til my turn comes round.
Lowering the pocket sounds like a good idea.
I'd like to see more material in the back of the hood rather than rounding it off so it is like a pixie / elf hood. (But that's just me being odd. LOL!).
Hope there enough blankets to get down to my place on the list.
Lowering the pocket sounds like a good idea.
I'd like to see more material in the back of the hood rather than rounding it off so it is like a pixie / elf hood. (But that's just me being odd. LOL!).
Hope there enough blankets to get down to my place on the list.
Mark (LBL). I popped in lunch-time'ish and Kev said I'd just missed you.
Guys I've seen the prototype and from a personnel point of view these look a good bit of kit. Nice and quiet when I'm out stalking and shooting:AR15firin The dogs danglies it sure looks!
The seamstress was there as well, dear old lady. Does she know what she's getting her-self into?
Kev explained that the lady is his seamstress he uses for the repairs and modifications of the kit he sells. He has other orders and work for her and Endys being a business he can't put all his eggs in one basket. He has a lot of customers he can't let down. As anyone who's used Endys know what an exceptional service they provide,
Patience being the watch word, looks like I'm up in the 3rd batch
Thanks again Mark and Endys
Guys I've seen the prototype and from a personnel point of view these look a good bit of kit. Nice and quiet when I'm out stalking and shooting:AR15firin The dogs danglies it sure looks!
The seamstress was there as well, dear old lady. Does she know what she's getting her-self into?
Kev explained that the lady is his seamstress he uses for the repairs and modifications of the kit he sells. He has other orders and work for her and Endys being a business he can't put all his eggs in one basket. He has a lot of customers he can't let down. As anyone who's used Endys know what an exceptional service they provide,
Patience being the watch word, looks like I'm up in the 3rd batch
Thanks again Mark and Endys
Not a bad looking shirt for a prototype.
I'm not sure about the handwarmer pocket think I'll drop that from mine and go with chest pocket maybe.
Is is just me or is the lenghth a little too long?
What did you think about the fit when walking around in it Littlebiglane?
I'm 41 on the list so will have to wait ages!!!!
Being so far down the list can be a good thing in that all the kinks can be worked out by the time it comes for me to get mine, but also negative too as it could get dropped between now and than
I'm not sure about the handwarmer pocket think I'll drop that from mine and go with chest pocket maybe.
Is is just me or is the lenghth a little too long?
What did you think about the fit when walking around in it Littlebiglane?
I'm 41 on the list so will have to wait ages!!!!
Being so far down the list can be a good thing in that all the kinks can be worked out by the time it comes for me to get mine, but also negative too as it could get dropped between now and than
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Just been going back over this thread , and with ref to feedback;-
"Before we get to the order stage Kevin wants to complete the prototype, finish it to a high standard (hems and edges finished properly, neck-tie completed etc) and to test it. He would also appreciate sensible feedback as to changes and optional additions. I have some photos and some thoughts I have already passed onto him.
My thoughts as to changes to the shirt:
Reduce the volume of the rear of the hood (ie get rid of the pointy bit at the back and round it out - see piccie 3 below)
Slightly reduce the bulk/volume of the upper arms/shoulders
Lower the 'roo pocket by 4 inches
Put 'darts' in the seams bottom left and right to aid movement and relieve stress at these points - the point I mean is where the longer back joins the shorter front on each side - you can see where I mean in piccie 4.
Don't use metal eyelets for the lace closure but stitched/thread holes as in my experience metal eyelets pull through the material over time. "
Reduce Hood - In doing this , will you still be able to turn ones head and the hood stay in situ ontop of your head? aslong as it does not problem , Also a 'slightly' more voluminous hood allows you to wear a hat ( think ruski cossack style ) and the hood can increase to sit ontop of that.
You want to be able to easily turn your head and the hood to follow.
Im just thinking about the Temperature and conditions where this bit of kit should ( in theory ) get most use.
Reduce Upper Arm, Shoulder material - Again in doing this , as long as the coat does not 'lift' when reaching over head with arms , good mobility of shoulder joint should be unrestricted for bushy type activity , it will also create extra 'air' pockets to store heat around thermal core.
Lower Roo pocket - Cant comment , if it makes sense , do it. This is going to a very individual thing of where all our hands ergonomically 'lay' at ease.
Darts - Makes sense to increase movement , bending down , taking high steps to clear logs etc.
Eyelets - Good point. Metal ringlets would also get very cold.#
The only contribution i can make is i think the overall length is spot on, it should ride down to just behind the knee's , so that when sitting down all the back material does not vanish and you have something to sit upon.
Possibly even double it up?
Good that it goes down past the groin area aswell.
If a chest pocketwas included with the kangaroo pockets , ist it possible , just for aesthetics for it to be made the same template as the pockets themselves , so that you dont have an obvious square patch just sewed on to the front of the pocket? Either that or put the chest pocket in behind the chest pocket with a slit opening at the top , this would keep any weighty stored items closer to someone centre of gravity , and so stop them bouncing around so much.
Suggestion of a Waist drawcord? Again to keep an active 'hot' air pocket in close to the main core area.
Going to see if i can find a copy of Mors 'dressing for the boreal forest' PDF and post a link.
##found it##
http://www.karamat.com/articles/pdf files/dressing001.pdf
You can see on the sketch where the HHLA ( High Heat Loss Areas) are considered to be , Armpits and Groin area, so I would consider keeping the extra material at the armpits/shoulders and ensure that the front of the smock is just above the knee's.
Hope this helps. Happy to go with the common gorup decision , just offering some feedback as requested.
"Before we get to the order stage Kevin wants to complete the prototype, finish it to a high standard (hems and edges finished properly, neck-tie completed etc) and to test it. He would also appreciate sensible feedback as to changes and optional additions. I have some photos and some thoughts I have already passed onto him.
My thoughts as to changes to the shirt:
Reduce the volume of the rear of the hood (ie get rid of the pointy bit at the back and round it out - see piccie 3 below)
Slightly reduce the bulk/volume of the upper arms/shoulders
Lower the 'roo pocket by 4 inches
Put 'darts' in the seams bottom left and right to aid movement and relieve stress at these points - the point I mean is where the longer back joins the shorter front on each side - you can see where I mean in piccie 4.
Don't use metal eyelets for the lace closure but stitched/thread holes as in my experience metal eyelets pull through the material over time. "
Reduce Hood - In doing this , will you still be able to turn ones head and the hood stay in situ ontop of your head? aslong as it does not problem , Also a 'slightly' more voluminous hood allows you to wear a hat ( think ruski cossack style ) and the hood can increase to sit ontop of that.
You want to be able to easily turn your head and the hood to follow.
Im just thinking about the Temperature and conditions where this bit of kit should ( in theory ) get most use.
Reduce Upper Arm, Shoulder material - Again in doing this , as long as the coat does not 'lift' when reaching over head with arms , good mobility of shoulder joint should be unrestricted for bushy type activity , it will also create extra 'air' pockets to store heat around thermal core.
Lower Roo pocket - Cant comment , if it makes sense , do it. This is going to a very individual thing of where all our hands ergonomically 'lay' at ease.
Darts - Makes sense to increase movement , bending down , taking high steps to clear logs etc.
Eyelets - Good point. Metal ringlets would also get very cold.#
The only contribution i can make is i think the overall length is spot on, it should ride down to just behind the knee's , so that when sitting down all the back material does not vanish and you have something to sit upon.
Possibly even double it up?
Good that it goes down past the groin area aswell.
If a chest pocketwas included with the kangaroo pockets , ist it possible , just for aesthetics for it to be made the same template as the pockets themselves , so that you dont have an obvious square patch just sewed on to the front of the pocket? Either that or put the chest pocket in behind the chest pocket with a slit opening at the top , this would keep any weighty stored items closer to someone centre of gravity , and so stop them bouncing around so much.
Suggestion of a Waist drawcord? Again to keep an active 'hot' air pocket in close to the main core area.
Going to see if i can find a copy of Mors 'dressing for the boreal forest' PDF and post a link.
##found it##
http://www.karamat.com/articles/pdf files/dressing001.pdf
You can see on the sketch where the HHLA ( High Heat Loss Areas) are considered to be , Armpits and Groin area, so I would consider keeping the extra material at the armpits/shoulders and ensure that the front of the smock is just above the knee's.
Hope this helps. Happy to go with the common gorup decision , just offering some feedback as requested.
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Great feedback TeeDee - especially on volume, length and pocket design. Thanks. Have passed comments on to Kev.
No idea at the moment. As soon as I know I'll let everyone know. It ain't going to be quick though.......:theyareon
I did try it on (the piccies in the first post are of Kev) but I am...ummmm....more generously proportioned than Kev and the prototype was too small for me. The prototype is being made to fit Kev as he is the nearest to it. He said it was REALLY comfortable and has been living in it all weekend.
As far as pockets - yep I guess that just about all the fixtures and fittings on it will be customiseable.
LBL
Seeing how's I'm the lucky one who's first on the list I'd like to see the following
All the mods Mark has suggested (less in the back of the hood, lower the pocket, darts at the base) but not have the shoulders and arms reduced. I like a bit of space round there.
Extras would be draw string round the edge of the hood to close it down round the head if necessary, map pocket built onto the front of the kangaroo pocket (that could be in heavyweight canvas) and side access pockets with covering flaps that are velcroed down when not in use. I'd probably also mod it at home by sewing a leather trim round the cuffs to reduce wear there.
You mentioned a 'personal' logo Mark. Any choices or is it totally freehand and we send a design in to be stitched on?
I'd like to see the followingAll the mods Mark has suggested (less in the back of the hood, lower the pocket, darts at the base) but not have the shoulders and arms reduced. I like a bit of space round there.
Extras would be draw string round the edge of the hood to close it down round the head if necessary, map pocket built onto the front of the kangaroo pocket (that could be in heavyweight canvas) and side access pockets with covering flaps that are velcroed down when not in use. I'd probably also mod it at home by sewing a leather trim round the cuffs to reduce wear there.
You mentioned a 'personal' logo Mark. Any choices or is it totally freehand and we send a design in to be stitched on?
Seeing how's I'm the lucky one who's first on the list
All the mods Mark has suggested (less in the back of the hood, lower the pocket, darts at the base) but not have the shoulders and arms reduced. I like a bit of space round there.
Extras would be draw string round the edge of the hood to close it down round the head if necessary, map pocket built onto the front of the kangaroo pocket (that could be in heavyweight canvas) and side access pockets with covering flaps that are velcroed down when not in use. I'd probably also mod it at home by sewing a leather trim round the cuffs to reduce wear there.
You mentioned a 'personal' logo Mark. Any choices or is it totally freehand and we send a design in to be stitched on?
Comments noted and passed on. I'll get details on the personalisation from Kev.
Thanks
LBL (Mark)
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