WKC bayonet? advice please

[Buckshot]

My brother in law recently lost his father to the big C
Going through the loft prior to letting the house clearance guys in they came across this
Do you know what it is and possible dates?
Any / all info greatfully received.
we think it could be German but it's in really good condition if this dates back to WW2
BIL's uncle served in the speed boat torpedo boats during the war but other than that not sure of any link that could help. Because of the condition I wonder if it's stainless?
The only real wear is on the scabbard. Still has the manufacturers unsharpened 'cutting' edge















Thanks

Mark

 

[Wook]

It looks very much like the "Dress bayonet for army NCO made by WKC" described here:

http://www.gotavapen.se/gota/artiklar/98bayonets/98bayonets4.htm

The German Military had a long history of using special bayonets when they were off duty but in uniform and it became even more popular during the Weimar Republic.

These sidearms were worn by enlisted men and junior NCOs.

These privately purchased bayonets were never intended for combat use. The Nazi organisation liked uniforms and parades because it had an attraction to many Germans and the edged weapons became a natural ceremonial contribution to their uniforms.

These bayonets came in two lengths, a shorter for length for NCO and a longer for enlisted men.

These bayonets had often rifle mortises but could not be fitted to rifles like K98. The spring-loaded pommel- button worked normally, but the track for the bayonet lug was under-dimensioned and often filled in with cloth of fitting colour.

A bayonet knot, Troddel, finished the bayonet off. Frogs were black or for Luftwaffe brown.



There are numerous types and variations of these bayonets. There are sanctioned types and there are private purchased bayonets.

The fire brigade had a type with double cross guard which was impossible to mount on any rifle and the Nazi Police used bayonets with stag-horn scales and the German Eagle with the swastika mounted on top
Bayonet M.36.

Although yours doesn't have the spring loaded button. Maybe a copy?

 

[HillBill]

Its a german firemans dress bayonet
http://www.johnsonreferencebooks.com/catalogue/weapons/bayonets/fireoff/27774.htm

http://worldbayonets.com/Bayonet_Identification_Guide/Germany__Post_WW_I_/Germany_1933_1945.html
Feuerwehr Seitengewehr (Fire Service Bayonet). Dress bayonet for ceremonial wear by a fireman with his "walking out" (evening dress) uniform. All German government officials wore a seitengewehr (sidearm) with their dress uniform, a tradition that goes back some 400 years.
Although these have no provision for mounting to a rifle, they are still classified as bayonets.

The tiger figural is the trademark of Lauterjung & Co., Tiger Stahlwaren-und Waffenfabrik of Solingen. The Lauterjung family began blademaking in the 1700s, producing knives, razors & blades, scissors, table ware, and, manicure implements. They produced daggers 1935–1945, but were not known to have produced comparable material in earlier years. Lauterjung is better known for its other Solingen factory, Puma-Werke. The Puma trademark dates back to Lauterjung's beginnings in the 1700s and remains in commercial use to the present-day.

This was a privately purchased item. Georg Rieder of Munich was the retailer who sold the piece.

All metal parts are nickel plated. The scabbard is painted with high-gloss black lacquer. Leather washer is present on blade.

Black leather belt frog (Carter #293) and Fire/Police troddel (knot). The troddel has a red striped ball, black strap with silver/red thread.


Seems they were plated to keep em shiney

 

[Buckshot]

Thanks guys :You_Rock_
I knew someone would have an idea

Just for information, any idea of value?

 

[HillBill]

http://www.johnsonreferencebooks.com/catalogue/weapons/bayonets/fireoff/index.html

Some priced ones there.

But you can also get them from ebay (US) for under $100.

 

[Buckshot]

So quite a difference in prices then!
Thanks again. I shall let him know the news