Wild camping dartmoor threatened again

[nigelp]

I’m not belittling the effects of rural crime and lack of police - there are none in towns either!

I just don’t see a connection between increased access for walkers and/or cyclists and increased fly tipping and supposed rural mugging etc.

 

[slowworm]

I just don’t see a connection between increased access for walkers and/or cyclists and increased fly tipping and supposed rural mugging etc.

Try talking to some land owners, some might be receptive to opening up their land some might provide you with real examples of their concerns. If you replace a stile with a gate do you not see you will open it up to motorbikes? You'll also likely to increase dog usage and fouling.

 

[nigelp]

Try talking to some land owners, some might be receptive to opening up their land some might provide you with real examples of their concerns. If you replace a stile with a gate do you not see you will open it up to motorbikes? You'll also likely to increase dog usage and fouling.

I have never seen a motorbike on a bridleway illegally so I suspect it depends where the location is.

It’s not my job to talk to anyone - I’ll continue to support the organisations that lobby and campaign for change, like Sustrans and the like.

 

[Falstaff]

I’m not belittling the effects of rural crime and lack of police - there are none in towns either!

I just don’t see a connection between increased access for walkers and/or cyclists and increased fly tipping and supposed rural mugging etc.

Sorry Nigel but if you come to Berkshire you'll find all of that and more. I've seen folk drive out and take their rubbish and dump it in the paths and bridle ways. The local MP had a public go at the Police about the illegal electric motorbikes on cyclepaths and footpaths. There are a lot of off road MX motorbikes going thru the woods etc and simply do not care about restrictions etc. Sustrans claimed they were going to prevent it on one riverside path. Fitted a pole barrier - youth explained to me how easy and quick it was to slide his bike underneath and just carry on riding.