Wild Boar....

jerv

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as far as i know dingos aren't dangerous to adults probably wouldn't want to come across a hungry pack though. yes i heard there are wild reindeer in eastern finland. i also heard they live in lapland
 

redcollective

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BOD said:
Just curious but what would you fellas do if you can across some dingos?

Nothing. Stop, let it pass undisturbed. I have encountered one (what i consider a dingo) just inland on the mid north coast of NSW while on a fishing trip (when I say 'encountered' I mean - we nearly hit it on the side of a dirt road) - it was pale, quiet, alone, and very skittish. Quite a beautiful animal really with a bit of an otherwordly look about it (hey, it was dark, the moon was bright - I'd had a few cold ones! ;)). Nothing like the mongrels you usually see. Can't say for sure that it was a 'real' dingo but it had all the hallmarks. 'Real' dingo are prettymuch restricted to isolated and unpopulated areas in middle and north of Aus. There is a special, much persecuted population of dingos on Fraser Island off the coast of QLD that many people think are a very old blood-line. However it's pretty likely that if there's a settlement or other population anywhere near you'll be looking at a hybird dog.

They have an undeserved, bad reuptation. People stupidly feed them which gets them used to people as a food source and bingo - you have mauled kiddie on your hands. Remove the people feeding them from the equation and you have an entirely different, *wild* animal. People are the problem and root cause of dingo aggression.

Feral dogs on the other hand are a menace. I know that dogs referred to as 'dingos' are found throughout south east asia but I feel the aboriginal term dingo should be reserved for the Aussie variety.
 

BOD

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Interesting. I have never come across a dingo. I'd probably do nothing and wait for it to go as you suggest. I have always thought the scare stories overblown

However, I was speaking to someone the other day who came across a pack at a kill and they surrounded him and the lead dog leapt at him.

There was programme on Discovery about British tourist David Easton (?) on Fraser island and how forensics suggested that he was brought down by a pack.

The wild dogs of South East Asia look at bit different from the dingos one sees on TV so I think the distiction is probably valid. After 40,000 years or whatever, they should be distinct.

Still thinking of doing a walk in the Pilbara later in the year.
 

redcollective

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I guess it's like bears or big cats - if you provide an easy meal - or your behaviour makes these animals learn you are the source of an easy meal, something will probably make an easy meal of you! LOL There is a theory that the hand feeding by tourists has let more dingos survive, thereby disrupting the normal pack dynamic - it becomes less easy for the dominant dogs to keep in control of an increasingly unweildy and hungry pack.

My understanding is that the usual pack has a dominant pair, and the females will either kill or drive away the surplus pups to keep the pack size small - I may be wrong, as I'm basing this on my vague recollections of a documentary when I was at school.

The qld govt has a brochure about behaviour around Dingos:

http://www.epa.qld.gov.au/publicati...goaware_Fraser_Island_World_Heritage_Area.pdf

Thankfully, it's pitched at protecting the Dingos.

Enjoy your walk in the Pilbara - you are not going alone are you? - it's got a town that's reputedly the worlds hottest place - but I can remember the name - one of the other aussies on here will probably know. Hmmmm this thread was about boars wasn't it? ;-)
 

moocher

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In England, you'd have to be very lucky to come across a wild boar. Never been lucky enough to live anywhere where there are wolves, but from what I know you'd also have to be extremely lucky to come across one, as they have been hunted by humans for generations, and avoid contact with people wherevever possible.

Where are you located, is it in an area where there are wolves and boars?
wildboar was trapped in compound couple miles from me in forest of dean it jumped fence when someone entered compound.made article in local rag.
 

demographic

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What you do kind of depends on the circumstance of where you see them I suppose.
Aparently this is about 7/8ths wolf and 1/8 husky.

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pierre girard

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demographic said:
What you do kind of depends on the circumstance of where you see them I suppose.
Aparently this is about 7/8ths wolf and 1/8 husky.

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Some folks like that type of dog - for some reason. Hard to breed the woods out of a wolf.

A good friend of mine had a dog that was mostly wolf. Nice enough dog, but it kept bringing home dead chickens. My friend went to the nearest neighbor who kept chickens - they hadn't really kept count and didn't think they were missing any. The wolf/dog's tally quickly reached 25 dead chickens.

One morning when the chicken people's kids were at the kitchen table, eating breakfast before school, they could see the wolf/dog out in their yard, playing with one of their new kittens. The W/D would playfully move his paw toward the kitten, the kitten would bat at the W/D paw. How cute, everyone thought.

Eventually, however, the W/D became bored and, snap, ate the kitten. Wouldn't have been so bad, said the father, but the W/D walked around the yard for a bit with the kitten's tail out of his mouth, the tail wagging back and forth, before the W/D swallowed. The father ran out with the shotgun, but W/D was long gone soon as he heard the door open.

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Josey Wales

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I have come across many a Boar but have been very fortunate that none have ever attaked me!
As i often spend time in these areas with family- for fun i decided to make a 'garrote' which in essence is a walking stick with a heavy bit on the end that you use to defend yourself if needs must. The 'garrote' is carried with the weight down.
I was describing this to my greek friend at one point and he told me that this was not the way to go around protecting ones self.
The way is to have a heavy stick which is strong- you have to find a happy medium between something that is strong but something that is strong enough to contain the panic of a wild animal who is in a panic. The idea is to hold down the animal to prevent it from getting at you whilst boaring - excuse the punn, I no its bad - into the animal evantually killing it.

Not all that nice but i thought it might interest you guys... however brutal it may be.
Sorry I have not had the chance to look at the whole thread but i hope this holds relevance to it!!


cheers,
 

torjusg

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Josey Wales said:
I have come across many a Boar but have been very fortunate that none have ever attaked me!
As i often spend time in these areas with family- for fun i decided to make a 'garrote' which in essence is a walking stick with a heavy bit on the end that you use to defend yourself if needs must. The 'garrote' is carried with the weight down.
I was describing this to my greek friend at one point and he told me that this was not the way to go around protecting ones self.
The way is to have a heavy stick which is strong- you have to find a happy medium between something that is strong but something that is strong enough to contain the panic of a wild animal who is in a panic. The idea is to hold down the animal to prevent it from getting at you whilst boaring - excuse the punn, I no its bad - into the animal evantually killing it.

Not all that nice but i thought it might interest you guys... however brutal it may be.
Sorry I have not had the chance to look at the whole thread but i hope this holds relevance to it!!


cheers,

A bit on the side, but aren't the Swedish boars half breeds?

Torjus Gaaren
 

torjusg

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Josey Wales said:
Dunno, are the ones in Norge?

Are no boars in Norway (since the neolithic), except those crossing the border from Sweden. I believe the boar went extinct in Sweden as well, although a little later. As did aurochs, wisent, tarpan and almost roe deer. How they were reintroduced I have no idea. But I have heard that the Russian boar is invading Lappland through Finland. :D

Torjus Gaaren
 
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Josey Wales

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Did not know that- you learn sumfink new every day!

Tell me, is there any fifference between the Swedish Elk and Norwegian Elk? - They sure are different on the road signs!! :drive:

Hey- there is something I have allways wanted to know- why are some number plates Green in Norway and some the normal black and white.
 

torjusg

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Josey Wales said:
Did not know that- you learn sumfink new every day!

Tell me, is there any fifference between the Swedish Elk and Norwegian Elk? - They sure are different on the road signs!! :drive:

Hey- there is something I have allways wanted to know- why are some number plates Green in Norway and some the normal black and white.

The elk is the same in both countries, but it is bigger the further north you come. Have never seen a Swedish elk roadsign. Is it something to see? :D

The green number plates are for those cars with only front seats, my girlfreind says, don't know why though. Something to do with taxation.

Torjus Gaaren
 
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Josey Wales

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Cheers, I had allways wondered.

The Swedish elk signs are more manly - the norwegian one looks a bit troll like - but of course i am most likely to have some bias heh?

swedish

or

Norwegian

Which is your favourite??

cheers,
 

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