Why the Chaos - Watch this - Money As Debt

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I would actually have thought that this would of real relevance to a bushcraft site anyway. After all, barter and trade are things that even bushcrafters need to do ... unless they are the totally self sufficient type and never come into contact with other people.

Has anyone considered where money comes from? If you are interested I can explain why money is merely a logical extension to the barter system.
 
I dont think its really gone off topic. debating david ickes sanity is quite relevant to the original documentry, he teaches the same thing, its worth knowning if somebody is crazy or not :)
 
All i say is this,visit Ike's site and visit the link Firecrest posted,watch with an open mind both vids, and draw your own conclusions,don't post on a subject until you have seen what were conversing about ,theres 7 hours of vids,so watch and then comment.

Bernie
 
All i say is this,visit Ike's site and visit the link Firecrest posted,watch with an open mind both vids, and draw your own conclusions,don't post on a subject until you have seen what were conversing about ,theres 7 hours of vids,so watch and then comment.

Bernie

I don’t need to spend half a day watching the ravings of a raving lunatic to know he is raving. He is articulate and well spoken; he is on topic and appeals to the common man, without patronising them. However, what he is telling them is still wrong.
AS for watching seven hours, searching for the message ‘of truth’, 7 minute is all it took.
Mr Icke, is preaching and his message is fear and blame.
He, like a lot of people in history, has picked on one section of the population, Ok in his case he’s spreading the blame a bit wider than is the norm. This, I think, is his appeal, and it appeals to a certain type of person. Some people just need to blame others for their own inadequacies; they need someone to blame for their failure, their lack of luck. Their failure to achieve that which they seek, whatever that may be.

One section of society, normally the ‘traditional outsiders’, are isolated by the rest of the population solely because of their ‘difference’, and it’s that difference is that makes other people afraid of them. Be it the fact they are a different race, or creed, maybe a different religion or even just the very nature of their foreignness, It may just be their ‘luck/success’ which makes people fear them, People fear the essence of their difference, that ‘thing’ that makes outsiders more successful.

Mr Icke plays on that. He is saying to a certain section of the population, “it’s not your fault it’s the others, they are the ones stopping you from having, money, luck fame, fortune, the girls/boys success…..” When in most cases it really is their fault.

People will do, say, and believe lots of things when they are afraid, and in that fear they will follow anyone who promises to take that fear away. Mr Icke is playing on the paranoia of that part of the population, the fear that they will have no control of their own life, that they will be replaced by the faceless mass that is the outsiders. The “others”, the “foreigners” the “not like us”

David Icke claims that the term “shape-changing elite lizards” is not a code word for Jews, blacks, foreigners, immigrants. I do not believe him and the funny thing is, nor do his most ardent of followers, that is the very reason they follow him.
 
This thread is not really about Dave Icke - But it would seam that at some point he said this financial crises was going to happen.

Not really interested.

The original links at the start of the thread explains how money is generated, And if I understand it right I dont think poring more cash in to the system will help?

Tadpole - thanks for your comments, I personally have only asked people to watch the
"Money As Debt" Program about 40min that is what the thread is about.

If some one wants to start a Dave Icke thread then off you go with my blessing.:) :)
 
No Mate,i don't lead a sad life.

Bernie

Clearly :rolleyes:

This thread is not really about Dave Icke - But it would seam that at some point he said this financial crises was going to happen.

Not really interested.

The original links at the start of the thread explains how money is generated, And if I understand it right I dont think poring more cash in to the system will help?

Tadpole - thanks for your comments, I personally have only asked people to watch the
"Money As Debt" Program about 40min that is what the thread is about.

Bernie, is pushing the thread in the David Icke direction, with his defence and promotion of the Icke videos. I was merely reply to his post, if you wish the topic to go in a different direction it is not me that you should be wagging your finger at.
 
Clearly :rolleyes:



Bernie, is pushing the thread in the David Icke direction, with his defence and promotion of the Icke videos. I was merely reply to his post, if you wish the topic to go in a different direction it is not me that you should be wagging your finger at.

LIsten Tadpole i'm not pushing the thread anywere,ive never listened to the man until this thread,and then did so,you don't agree fair enough,but stop try to ram your ideals in life down our throats,me finished.

Bernie
 
LIsten Tadpole i'm not pushing the thread anywere,ive never listened to the man until this thread,and then did so,you don't agree fair enough,but stop try to ram your ideals in life down our throats,me finished.

Bernie
Please tell me where I am trying to Ram 'my ideals' down anyones throat. You posted I replied It’s called a discussion, on a discussion board. Surely, that is the whole point.
If anyone is trying to prevent people from expressing a differing opinion from theirs, it’s you.:rolleyes:
 
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