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Why the Chaos - Watch this - Money As Debt

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Shambling Shaman

Shambling Shaman

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David Icke has been telling people this for years.
But the masses thought he was mad.
Not so daft now is he!!!!
Garf.
 
Garf said:
David Icke has been telling people this for years.
But the masses thought he was mad.
Not so daft now is he!!!!
Garf.
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Well, in all fairness, he quite clearly is mad - but not necessarily wrong about everything...
 
Shambling Shaman said:
Not one for posting You Tube links, but was sent this in total about 40min long. It 40min that should be watched, Makes sense why the world economy its in free fall...

Sort of know some of this But when its all laid out....:eek:

1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_36o9TZovGY

2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u51ef93dciQ

3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWXrllZ9lSc

4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPtzmHQcSGs

5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF5YZPk3NUc
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I have a bit of knowledge of finance and what is shown here is pretty much spot on. There are of course other factors of variable extent involved (e.g., stupid politicians, bad monetary policies, etc.) but essentially this 5-part video sums it all up. I encourage you all to watch it.

Now people will know why people like me think Gordon Brown was one of the worst chancellors (and leaders) this country has ever had. He encouraged people to borrow so they can spend this money that doesn't exist. He effectively encouraged debt that can't be paid off. B**** **** **** idiot! We're just beginning to see the consequences of that.

I (and no doubt the rest of you) have plenty of other things to say about exceptionally poor governance but that's another whole website, let alone a thread, so I'll leave it at that.

Mini-rant over! Back to work.

Scrubbity
 
I don't want to slide this off topic too much but I had to reply to the close minded ignorance of 'gregorach' and 'tadpole'.

If you were to give Icke a chance, you'd realise he talks alot of sense, why would he then randomly talk about these 'crazy' things aswell without some kind of reasoning?

gregorach said:
Well, the whole shape-shifting reptilian alien conspiracy thing, for one...
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Do you claim to know everything there is about our existence and this reality? If not, then, although I agree that this information sounds 'crazy' and is certainly fringe, out there kind of stuff, how the hell do you know its not true?

Tadpole said:
Well apart from thinking he was the reincarnation of Jesus, and all that. :rolleyes:
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He never said this, and this is what mainstream media spread like wildfire to keep people from listening to his information. He simply said he was the son of God, just like everyone else.

I don't commit to believing or disbelieving anything he says. BUT to outright dismiss it as crazy is JUST as mad as to outright believe it ;) People don't seem to realise that.

Shambling Shaman: Thanks for posting those links, very interesting stuff :)
 
'Ey up...Here we go.....
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Morning Fox said:
I don't want to slide this off topic too much but I had to reply to the close minded ignorance of 'gregorach' and 'tadpole'.

Tadpole said:
Well apart from thinking he was the reincarnation of Jesus, and all that. :rolleyes:
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He never said this, and this is what mainstream media spread like wildfire to keep people from listening to his information. He simply said he was the son of God, just like everyone else.
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David Icke:
I am a Son of God, if you can open your mind enough to perceive us all as a droplet in the same infinite ocean of consciousness that some call 'God'. Indeed, open your mind some more (sorry about the headache, Fletch) and you will see that we are not only a droplet, we are the ocean also.

So far, you are the only one who is showing his own ignorance.
 
Having not watched the clips cos the school server blocks them I'll just chip this...

Debt is all relative....
if you owe the bank £150 000 and can not you are knackered....
if you owe the bank £150 000 000 and can not pay they are knackered.

Simon
 
I can only hope that Morning Fox is joking. While I don't claim to know "everything there is about our existence and this reality", I do know that postulating shape-shifting reptilian alien conspiracies to explain things which are much more readily explained by the normal operation of politics and human behaviour, without any evidence whatsoever, is not sane in any sense of the word. Heck, the concept of a "shape-shifting reptilian alien" doesn't even make any sense - unless you want to believe all that stuff about Xenu, in which case I'm just going to smile and back away slowly.

To paraphrase Hanlan's Razor, never assume shape-shifting alien conspiracies when stupidity and greed will suffice.

If David Icke is not insane, then no-one is. Not even the schizophrenic guy I knew who was convinced that Mossad were listening to his thoughts. Actually, that's far more believable - we know Mossad really exists, for one thing.
 
SimonM said:
Having not watched the clips cos the school server blocks them I'll just chip this...

Debt is all relative....
if you owe the bank £150 000 and can not you are knackered....
if you owe the bank £150 000 000 and can not pay they are knackered.

Simon
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While what you say is true, there are other consequences ...

The Money as Debt video is something I came across a good few years ago. It is simplistic in its approach, but fundamentally sound.

The Federal Reserve has even published a book about money which corroborates the money creation process described in the video. These are facts we can stick to - as for shape shifting reptilians or David Icke's sanity, these are about as relevant to a thread about the money creation process as pastfarianism.
 
Shape shifting reptilians??
David Icke's sanity??

I have no experience of the above, But once the world was flat.....And the atom was the smallest thing EVER (then they cut one open and stuff fell out)
And when I was at school a 66mhz processor was the fastest the world would ever see..

Keep an open mind, respect each others views, Do as thy will as long as you harm none.
omo.

Back to the thread - Old Gorden (any leader) is a puppet of the banking system..Who do the government bank with?? there cash is safe...? they always seem to get it when they need it.

See you all in the hills when it all goes pear shaped :D :D
 
Please Do not get this thread closed down.

Lets not get political.

And

The Respect each others views was a general statement not aimed at any one...It is just a nice way to be. Open and honest debate is what we should be about.

I would also like people to know about this...

Rob
 
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