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Hi All,

Just joined the community today and have similar probs on locations. I'm into totally isolated places where I can camp, fish, shoot (air weapons), light fires and just be self sufficient. Outer Hebrides is NOT an option!! South East is preferred. Lots of experience of rough camping, I am what is euphemistically referred to as of advancing years but I don't intend to peg out just yet!
Anyone got any (printable) ideas or want to discuss?
 
wannabefree said:
Hi All,

Just joined the community today and have similar probs on locations. I'm into totally isolated places where I can camp, fish, shoot (air weapons), light fires and just be self sufficient. Outer Hebrides is NOT an option!! South East is preferred. Lots of experience of rough camping, I am what is euphemistically referred to as of advancing years but I don't intend to peg out just yet!
Anyone got any (printable) ideas or want to discuss?
The place you seek is Nirvana.Unless you can find a generous landowner you wont find it in the U.K. :-)
If you read back over this thread there are a few suggestions to approach landowners when you find a potential spot
 
I recently found a spot in the Yorkshire peaks, I was out walking with a friend, intending on doing some wild camping.

It was late when we arrived in the area, so there was no-one around (gone 8pm), coupled with the fact it was quite misty, and a good few miles from the nearest habitation (with some hills in the way to boot) we were able to go in un-noticed.

Don't get me wrong, i would not endorse doing these things without permission, but how the hell do i find out who owns the land..??

Anyway, the woodland was in a state of sorry repair, a lot of fallen and half fallen trees on the periphery, but a bit deeper in, and we found a cracking spot, with a reasonable fast flowing river (which was welcome as we had just about run out of water).

We got a small fire going in a small, but hidden clearing taking care not to light it near any surfaced roots , stumps etc, and all was well. The below cloud meant that there was little risk of smoke being seen (that and it was fast approaching dusk) and being what appeared to be an un-managed section of the wood, there was loads of standing dead, well seasoned, easily accessible spruce, so there was not much smoke anyway.

If it was not for a local farmer out with his shotgun the night would have been somewhat idyllic.

And if I can find out the name of the owner / farm field next door, there was some good rabbit hunting to be done too :)

Now, where as I would love to share the location.. as I did not have permission to be there, I would rather keep its location shtum, but by spending 20 minutes looking at the OS map it was easy to spot a number of similar areas all within half a days.

Again, the difficult thing for me would be identifying who owns the land... How exactly do i go about doing this... any ideas??

(Here is a clue though, at its closes point, the Pennine Way is less than 100 meters from the forrest edge....)

:super:
 
Again, the difficult thing for me would be identifying who owns the land... How exactly do i go about doing this... any ideas??
Try the local land registery.... or ask the locals.... go to the local pub and ask the landlord... they will probably know everything including the local gossip.

Please do not use the land without permisson..... Farmers and gamekeepers go out shooting at night quite a bit and you may end up in a serious accident.... and how do you think the farmer (and his family) would feel if he was charged with manslaughter or taken to court for compensation just because some *@#!! didn't let him know they were there.....
Play safe guys and gals and get permission.... you have been warned ;-)

Ed
 
wannabefree said:
Hi All,

Just joined the community today and have similar probs on locations. I'm into totally isolated places where I can camp, fish, shoot (air weapons), light fires and just be self sufficient. Outer Hebrides is NOT an option!! South East is preferred. Lots of experience of rough camping, I am what is euphemistically referred to as of advancing years but I don't intend to peg out just yet!
Anyone got any (printable) ideas or want to discuss?
Go Shopping ..... start here :lol:
http://www.woodlandstewardship.com/SouthEast.htm
 
So what about we buy some woodland as a syndicate in a reasonably central or reasonably accessible (to us) location?

As I can't afford to buy a house and don't want to pretend that I can do it by becoming slave to one work location while I paid off a huge, multi-decade mortgage, I'd been thinking about simply buying some woodland instead!

And hey, if I needed a permanent place to live, I could build a leaf shelter on it! ;-)

So I'd already looked around http://www.woodlands.co.uk/north.htm and noted Red Gap Wood and Long Wold Wood. I'd prefer more acreage and more water access for the money but since when could a bushcrafter have everything laid out on a plate? :-)

OK, supposing we just play with the idea.... let's just consider some questions....
How much money would members have to stump up?
Could some members pay a small fee to use such a site in order to pay off bigger contributions made by other members?
Could some members shovel up some money for some of it and a syndicate take out a mortgage on the remaining? (is this something the Ecology Building Society would look at?)
Or better yet, how about assessing how much member cash is available, and how much extra could be borrowed from relatives and the loans paid back to relatives with a better-than-bank-but-much-less-than-mortgage-lender interest rate? (I don't need to borrow money from my folks but I wish I did because I could pay them a better rate on their savings than they get at the bank and still pay less interest than I would have to pay a bank or building society)
Or making it available to woodcraft schools for a fee (again to help pay back any loan required to cover a differential between what we could raise and what we would have to pay)

What rules would a syndicate site need?
One I would propose is that no animals be taken using commercially made means (in order to protect the wildlife and the interests of other members)
I think many other rules could be summed up in the basic principles of bushcraft: no litter! (duh), no forest fires (duh), no ghetto-blasters (duh), no wild parties (well, maybe wild parties but not religious worship stuff).

I inclined to say that membership rights and access should be equal among all who put up cash over a certain amount (say, [pounds]1,000), regardless of how much they put up individually. If I put up [pounds]6,000 and found a bunch of other bushcrafters were always there more than I am then I don't care - they can teach me what they learned! They pay a [pounds]10 fee or a [pounds]20 annual membership fee for the right to go there whenever they want. Don't worry about the numbers - I'm merely chucking them out there to get a perspective into play.

Also, just to get a base level number for a contribution out there, I could put 4,000 into this idea and possibly a couple of thousand more. How much more would depend on when, how things are going with work, etc.

Maybe this idea should be given a thread. Maybe there already is one for this idea - I haven't checked yet! :-)
 
Great Pebble said:
Would I be likely to get in trouble if I said.....

"Anywhere you like as long as you don't get caught and don't leave any evidence that you've been there when you leave"

?

I'm thinking that is exactly the reason most people go quiet when this question gets asked. ;) :D :D
 
Hi Ginger.

It might be an idea to start a new thread about possibly buying land. the one main difficulty i see apart from my own lack of cash is location. The ideal woodland space would have running water toilet facilites etc. It would need to be fairly central so that most members could get there in say 1.5 drive. that would put it somewhere in the midlands. I'm not sure what land prices are in that neck of the woods.
 
Somehow I think the only not sold site available is a little out of our budgets:

Coldborough Park - Nr Ross-on-Wye, Herefordshire - 73.9 ha. - £310,000 - Lot 1: 26.9 ha., £105,000, Lot 2: 47 ha, £205,000

What we need is a huge part of dartmoor that's completely wild. You apply for a permit from the park authority, they check liability insurance and make you take a test on basic safety, consideration to the environment and others and send you on your way. By issuing a fairly small number of permits on a monthly first come first served basis it makes it fair.

Now, who do we kidnap to get something like this???
 
Hi folks

I stumbled upon your forum today and so far it has made good reading.

I've been practiving bushcraft for a few years now and love it.

The reason I have joined this thread is I have some land that I use to practice on - unfortunetly in France! It is only a few acres but is surrounded by other private woodland that I have never seen anyone on. So feels bigger. maybe we could come to some arrangement where people pay a fee to stay there alone for a week, or whatever. It doesn't have showers and toilets as requested by an earlier poster, but surely that is part of bushcraft???

I have also looked at the Woodlands for sale websites. I have recently been made redundent and I was thinking how I could buy a chunk of woodland with the money that I could obviously use myself, but also get some form of income from it. Would any of you guys be interested in paying for an official wild camp with hunting rights?
 
TheViking said:
You can create a thread, Tedders in the introductions and welcomes. :D :D

I actually think this comes under the where to go topic nicely...

I would be interested if the land were in the UK... I travel to france regularly to go to Fontainebleau. but i'd be interested in paying a reasonable fee to use land... not too bothered about the hunting though.

Welcome by the way Tedders! :o)
 
To find out who owns land I tend to pop into the nearest farmhouse. Farmers generally know a lot about the local landowners and how to get hold of them!

I'm lucky to be in the job I am as I get to use the site that we use for courses if I want to. I also regularly go to a small woodland which I happen to know that the owner lives abroad and is not bothered what goes on there. Its all about information gathering - ask some questions and I'm sure you'll find somewhere.

I also volunteer for the national trust and spend 2 days a week helping to manage some woodland which has given me a foot in the door resulting in permission to camp on the campsite that the scouts etc use there. Volunteering to help manage the woods is a great way to win the landowner over!
 
The quickest way to find out who owns the land, is to start up a chainsaw................you will find out within 3 minutes, guaranteed. It has always worked for me! :naughty:
 
Jack said:
The quickest way to find out who owns the land, is to start up a chainsaw................you will find out within 3 minutes, guaranteed. It has always worked for me! :naughty:
:o): :rolmao: :o):
 

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