What's that all about?

sasquatch

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I think Toddy's right about the stencils as they are too uniformal in size which would be impossible if painted by hand though I do suspect a certain artistic liberty on some of them though i.e.finger smudging......What I can tell you is that the two in the middle, facing us, were the first to be done (on each side of the stencil) the top one was the very first ...(which will give an indication of the perpetrators height, as we always start at the most comfortable position for us)... then the others ( that is the ones with the pointy bits towards the left) working up & moving to the right ( which suggests a right handed person) ........ they were sprayed on with a certain design or concept in mind but with out a mathmatical or artistic bend ( for bend read, talent) then the stencil was turned over & the previosly mentioned nana was sprayed (again at the comfort height) & so on.& so forth..... looks like the stencil was getting pretty tired further up & towards the left which indicates that the 'artist' stood back to see where he was going to put the last ones ones, I think they were all done by the same guy( with a ladder of some kind).....not very clear all that I know !
Why ? can't say, though Toddy's suggestion of some sort of game sounds plausable, could have been done for a photo shoot too or a competion " how many nanas can you spray on a trunk in a given time, but they are too evenly spaced for such a frenzy. It was certainly planned & done for a reason,

I must admit the effect ain't too bad, certainly doesn't clash with the surroundings (esthetically speaking)



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blacktimberwolf.... specialist in post - neolithic tree bark banana paintings.

Surely an aspiring graffiti artist would be blamming something a bit more advanced when using a stencil? It takes hours and hours to produce a quality piece worthy of spraying and tend to run campains where people will see their work to make a name for themselves. This looks pretty amateur to me that's all...
 
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Surely an aspiring graffiti artist would be blamming something a bit more advanced when using a stencil? It takes hours and hours to produce a quality piece worthy of spraying and tend to run campains where people will see their work to make a name for themselves. This looks pretty amateur to me that's all...



I don't think anyone here is suggesting that this is the work on an artist, graffiti or otherwise,& I do hope you didn't take my post too seriously............................I wish they were apples, then I could appear witty by saying it was a pine-apple-tree, though Andy's monkey puzzle tree get's my vote................another post count for the thread.
 

Andy2112

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I don't think anyone here is suggesting that this is the work on an artist, graffiti or otherwise,& I do hope you didn't take my post too seriously............................I wish they were apples, then I could appear witty by saying it was a pine-apple-tree, though Andy's monkey puzzle tree get's my vote................another post count for the thread.

Pine-apple-tree, lol, that made me laugh, thanks for cheering my day up mate. ;)
 

santaman2000

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Surely an aspiring graffiti artist would be blamming something a bit more advanced when using a stencil? It takes hours and hours to produce a quality piece worthy of spraying and tend to run campains where people will see their work to make a name for themselves. This looks pretty amateur to me that's all...

I don't think they spent hours hand cutting the stencils; more likely they selected the patterns and cut them on a commercial stencil cutter. Only takes a few minutes that way, and they're relatively cheap to have done if you don't have access to your own machine (all you really need is a mate that's a professional painter and you can ask him for the stencil)
 

shaggystu

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I don't think they spent hours hand cutting the stencils; more likely they selected the patterns and cut them on a commercial stencil cutter. Only takes a few minutes that way, and they're relatively cheap to have done if you don't have access to your own machine (all you really need is a mate that's a professional painter and you can ask him for the stencil)

i know that at least some graffiti artists do spend hours hand cutting the stencils, i've spent many an hour helping them!

stuart
 

santaman2000

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i know that at least some graffiti artists do spend hours hand cutting the stencils, i've spent many an hour helping them!

stuart

Granted something complicated or with a specific logo (gang emblem, etc) would require hand stenciling. I was only referring to simple patterns like the bananas in the photos.
 

Toddy

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A stencil such as the banana could be done with a craft knife and a sheet of card from a breakfast cereal box. It doesn't need to use parchment or linseed oiled card for something like that. Spray mount on the other side, slap it on whatever you want to paint and spray. Peel off, and stick on again. S'easy. It also allows multiple and shading colours.
If you use a brush just don't overload it with paint, and stipple through the stencil.
I've made a lot of banners, pavement, fencepost and wall signs this way.

cheers,
Toddy
 

shaggystu

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Granted something complicated or with a specific logo (gang emblem, etc) would require hand stenciling. I was only referring to simple patterns like the bananas in the photos.

i get what you're saying, and i'm sure that you're right about the commercial stencil cutters, i've just never heard of such a thing to be honest. i know a few people who do graffiti commercially (there's quite a lot getting comissioned by the local authorities around here at the moment) and they cut all their stencils by hand, no matter how simple or complicated, it's quite an art IMO. the way they do it is exactly as toddy describes above; cereal box, craft knife, spray mount, rattle can, really simple and effective.

stuart
 
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But then again true artists don't need stencils, there's quite a difference between craftwork & art where painting is concerned. Graffiti using stencils is more design than art & being good at cutting out shapes in cardboard don't make you an artist.
 

shaggystu

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But then again true artists don't need stencils, there's quite a difference between craftwork & art where painting is concerned. Graffiti using stencils is more design than art & being good at cutting out shapes in cardboard don't make you an artist.

someone has to put the design onto the stencil in some way in the first place, the art is in the design of the stencil

stuart
 
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someone has to put the design onto the stencil in some way in the first place, the art is in the design of the stencil

stuart



Everyone has their own definition of art of course, & design to me is not art. Drawing patterns or figures on cardboard isn't really art to me either, any more than painting by numbers is. I probably have a very narrow view as to what art is. I also believe that it's not just because you practice an art, you are an artist.
 

Toddy

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Besides truly good art needs skillfull design and craft to come to fruition, while art only enhances design......:D

cheers,

Toddy......looking for cover :D
 
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Besides truly good art needs skillfull design and craft to come to fruition, while art only enhances design......:D

cheers,

Toddy......looking for cover :D



" Truly good art " is in the eye of the beholder, tastes differ & some consider modern art such as a pile of bricks or tyres or even an unmade bed as truly good art.
I'm really only talking about painting & drawing here, as some skilled craftsmen including a few members on this forum create things that to my eye, are art but to someone else may just be useful objects.
This is just my opinion though, as the above post was yours.
 
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