Vargo Para-Bottle.

[BigMonster]

Guys I'm going crazy. As much as I like titanium, what is the point?

Titanium 280g: https://www.vargooutdoors.com/titanium-para-bottle.html
Stainless Steel 250g: https://www.vargooutdoors.com/stainless-steel-para-bottle.html

Can someone physically confirm the weight of the titanium version?

 

[dave53]

Guys I'm going crazy. As much as I like titanium, what is the point?

Titanium 280g: https://www.vargooutdoors.com/titanium-para-bottle.html
Stainless Steel 250g: https://www.vargooutdoors.com/stainless-steel-para-bottle.html

Can someone physically confirm the weight of the titanium version?

Hi Matt for the less weight of the titanium I wouldn't pay that difference in money no way rip off

 

[BigMonster]

No no no. The titanium version is 30g HEAVIER than steel according to details from their website.

 

[petrochemicals]

Well thefragile plastic top is now metal I suppose? If you don't mind plastic just buy a sevices plastic water bottle at 100 g.

 

[Jared]

Heh. That top looks like the problem if there isn't a mistake.

Just looked up Keith Ti's 1100 ml bottle, 268g... but that's a millary kidney style with 700ml cup and lid.

 

[Janne]

Nice bottles!
After my old service flask broke, I started using used soda bottles, the ones made from thick plastic.
Cost me nothing.

 

[Paul_B]

Litre bottles right? 1kg if water with 30g weight difference. Not a big issue but I'd not pay the money for Titanium bottles personally.

 

[BigMonster]

Litre bottles right? 1kg if water with 30g weight difference. Not a big issue but I'd not pay the money for Titanium bottles personally.

That's my point. Steel is stronger and 5x cheaper. Only reason to pay for titanium is weight savings. Not in this case.

 

[Nice65]

That's my point. Steel is stronger and 5x cheaper. Only reason to pay for titanium is weight savings. Not in this case.

Titanium is massively overrated IMO. The Americans love it for torches, knife scales etc, but it is seriously overrated. Anything with a screw thread tends to be scratchy because it's a hard metal to work and finish and the tooling has had to be upgraded to match the harder material and doesn't do as good a job as the well established steel manufacturing process. Go with stainless steel, you won't cry if you dent it.

 

[Janne]

Titanium is excellent in Russian submarines and implants ( teeth, joints).

Maybe space thingies.

Othervise plastic or steel is better and cheaper.

What do you say when you sit down and squash that 150$ Ti bottle?

Words the Mods would ban you for!

 

[Janne]

Titanium water bottle = carbon fibre dashboard surface / shift knob.

 

[juliojordio1983]

I'd argue PEEK is better for human implants than Ti nowadays....

 

[Janne]

Maybe. I like to see more longterm studies.
We have studies stretching back decades done by Brånemark and the Brånemark Institute.

When I have my knee replaced ( hopefully never though! ) I want a Ti one.

 

[Nice65]

Maybe. I like to see more longterm studies.
We have studies stretching back decades done by Brånemark and the Brånemark Institute.

When I have my knee replaced ( hopefully never though! ) I want a Ti one.

I've got a Ti hip joint, seems ok so far, no squeaks or creaks in the ceramic parts. Pain at airport security though.

 

[juliojordio1983]

Gents, have a look at Invibio.

Ti can still be slowly rejected over the years. PEEK, or rather the stuff we make called Invibio, is not rejected, and the bones can heal around the PEEK. Bones wont heal around metal. I assure you, within 10-20 years, metal human implants will be a thing of the past, and this product, or variants of it, is all that will be used. The different applications it can be used for is amazing, from teeth to spinal cages.