I didnt say that there are cheaper versions to buy on you tube what i was attempting to convey, although it was obviously not understood by some, was that there are some good alternative versions of this idea on you tube, which are very simple to make, every bit as good, and work out alot cheaper to make than to buy. Personally i get more satisfaction from using something i have made, adapted or recycled myself rather than buying it, and after all isn't that an integral part of this whole pastime/lifestyle that we enjoy ? With regards to the stand coming from a reputable supplier or not, it is, after all, only three pieces of sheet metal, and i am sure that the vast majority of this sites members would be more than capable of producing a very good and very safe working stand.